What you mean like the comment tim cook makes everytime they release a new phone?
It's the best iPhone we've ever seen! No kidding, I can't see them putting out a lower grade phone because they didn't want to spend the money on R&D for the biggest and best, So they thought they'd put out a 3 inch flip phone running ms dos 2 But yeah every new device needs to be taken with a grain of salt because they may be great on the day of release but really they are only faster for 12 months at least then there is a new device. Mean while the device you get to day should last another 4 years if you just go with it. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2020 4:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The iPhone Special Edition 2020 or whatever it wil be called from apple Insider It absolutely is a faster CPU, but what I am saying that I have had iPhones for a long time and when Apple praises how fast the new chips are and they give numbers like "twice as fast" or that apps open "40% faster" that is not really all that much in real life and what people do with their phones. I know that every time I upgrade and most recently that was from my 6S to an 8 I was thinking "Oh, it's nice, but it's not all that much different". As for being more future proof, yes, of course a phone which is 2 years ahead will probably get a couple more iOS versions, but again, most phones nowadays get at least 4 after they are released which means if it stops after that you can have a phone for 5 years. The 6S, for example, came out in 2015 with the A9 chip and iOS 9. The SE has the same chip but was released half a year later in April of 2017. Both still have support for iOS 13 so they got iOS 10, 11, 12 and now 13 and I guess we'll find out in June whether they still get iOS 14. Not too many people I know keep their phone for 5 years so in many cases upgrading after a year or 2 with the reasoning that you get more iOS updates isn't a very good reason because chances are you would upgrade after 3 or 4 years anyways. I'm just making the point that nowadays these phones are mature devices, they are not new and experiencing major upgrades every year or two where you might say I really need one now. I still think if somebody has an iPhone 8 it's a waste of money to upgrade now, better wait a year or two and then get a new phone with 5G support because the new SE will most certainly not have it so why not get a new phone say in 2021, by then 5G will be well on its way to becoming available and if you upgrade now to a new SE chances are you justify another upgrade a year and a half from now because you want 5G support. In fact, once 5G is widely available it will be the biggest game changer which we have seen in a long time. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: The iPhone Special Edition 2020 or whatever it wil be called from apple Insider What? Isn't Apple's A13BionicChip in its iPhone11 & iPhone11PRO/PRO MAX Better Than its A11 Chip, which as I recall is in its iPhone8/8+ as well as its AnniversaryEdition, the iPhoneX? If this isn't True, Apple does (indeed) Talk ... during its SeptemberLaunches Every Year, Right??? At 08:20 AM 4/6/2020, you wrote: >I have a 64 11, and got it for $648, so $400 dollars for the SE? I'm >glad I did what I did. > >-----Original Message----- >From: viphone@googlegroups.com >[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 10:29 AM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: RE: The iPhone Special Edition 2020 or whatever it wil be >called from apple Insider > >That would be my advice as well, the only possible reasons why I could >see somebody wanted to upgrade is because they maybe have a 64Gb iPhone >8 and really need more space or because they really want the carkey >feature which I assume you don't need. >Apart from that this will be just an iPhone 8 with a faster processor >and believe me, you most likely won't notice much of a difference for >normal day-to-day things, maybe apps open just a quarter second faster >and you would probably notice a difference with really CPU and RAM >intensive games or things like video editing, but in my opinion >upgrading to this phone if you have an iPhone 8 is a waste of money. My >wife and I both have the iPhone 8 as well, we both have 64 Gb models >and my wife is sighted and does more with her phone in terms of editing >photos and such, but we have no plans to upgrade. >I have had 64 Gb phones ever since my iPhone 4S in 2011 and never ran >out of space even when I had my 25 Gb music library on my phone. Now >that I have Apple Music I don't store any music on my phone any more >and even with about 500 pictures and a few dozen videos on my phone as >well as over 100 apps I still have well over 30 Gb of free space which >after you count the space iOS takes up is well over half. The only time >I would buy a 128 Gb phone is if Apple at some point makes that their >lowest available option, otherwise I would just spend an extra $100 for >something I don't need. Of course that is me and if you think you need >this much storage then that is fine, but always look at what size phone >you have now and how much free space you have, if it's plenty there is >probably little reason to buy a phone with more storage. If you just >bought a new iPhone 8 last year there is no reason why you can't use >that phone for another >2 or 3 years or even 4 years although if you do you might want to spend >the $40 or $50 and get a new battery put in after a couple more years >or whenever you notice you have to charge more often or that your >battery health drops below 83 or 85%. > >Best regards, >Sieghard > >-----Original Message----- >From: viphone@googlegroups.com ><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy >Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:45 AM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: The iPhone Special Edition 2020 or whatever it wil be >called from apple Insider > >Hi, >I wouldn't upgrade unless your having problems with the iPhone 8. > >Feliciano >For tech tips and updates: >LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v >Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v >Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v >those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the >ones who do. -Steve Jobs > > > On Apr 6, 2020, at 3:22 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'm just glad to know that it is coming out, and will still have > > a home button. I will probably get it in the 256 gig model. Even > > though I just got my iPhone 8 last year, should I ditch my iPhone 8 > > for this new iPhone? > > > >> On 4/6/20, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Richard > >> > >> One of the better rumour articles. > >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > >> Of Richard Turner > >> Sent: Monday, 6 April 2020 2:06 AM > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: The iPhone Special Edition 2020 or whatever it wil be > >> called from apple Insider > >> > >> Everything known about the 2020 'iPhone SE' > >> By Mike Peterson Friday, April 03, 2020, The launch of the > >> so-called > >> 2020 "iPhone SE," largely expected to be an updated iPhone 8-style > >> device, is imminent. Here's what's been discovered about the > >> subject of rumors for the last three years. The 'iPhone SE' is > >> expected to have a design basically the same as the iPhone 8. While > >> rumors about a low-cost iPhone refresh have been circulating for > >> years, it now appears that Apple will debut the device in early > >> 2020. Here's everything that's been discovered about the > upcoming 4.7-inch iPhone. The 'iPhone SE 2' > >> at a glance According to the latest rumors and leaks, here are some > >> key points about the "iPhone SE. The same footprint as the 4.7-inch > >> iPhone 8 footprint Latest-generation A13 chip and 3GB of RAM 64, > >> 128 and 256GB storage variants Retain a Home button with Touch ID > >> Retail as low as $399 Larger 5.5-inch "iPhone SE Plus" model at > >> some point 'iPhone SE 2' design Despite the now possibly confirmed "iPhone > >> SE" > >> moniker, the device is more likely to be a spiritual successor to > >> the iPhone 8 instead of the popular 4-inch form factor. At this > >> point, that 4.7-inch footprint is so likely that case makers are > >> already going all-in on the size. In late March, cases for an > >> affordable iPhone 8-style device began arriving at Best Buy . There > >> may also be a larger version of the "iPhone SE" available, > >> according to leaked code strings within iOS 14. That device would > >> be akin to the iPhone 8 Plus, just with the same updated internals. > >> We're not currently expecting any major design overhauls like an > >> edge-to-edge display, OLED panel or a TrueDepth Face ID sensor > >> suite. Like last year's stable of iPads, the device will continue > >> to rely on older tech like Touch ID and will sport aging, bezeled > designs. But its price point and internal upgrades, which we'll get to > below, may make it a popular choice for many consumers. 'iPhone SE 2' > >> specifications A concept render of what the > 2020 "iPhone SE" will look like. > >> Courtesy of OnLeaks and iGeeksblog. Apple is definitely going to > >> give the "iPhone SE" an overhaul in terms of its internal specifications. > >> But users should expect incremental updates, not major ones. Back > >> in January 2018, well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo suggested that > >> the "iPhone SE 2" would sport an A13 processor - the same as the > >> CPU in the iPhone 11 - and 3GB of RAM. More minor updates could > >> include a new Liquid Crystal Polymer antenna design, which would > >> give the refreshed device better cellular reception and > >> performance. Leaked code in iOS 14 also suggests that the "iPhone > >> SE" will retain a Touch ID fingerprint sensor, though it may > >> support the so-called CarKey feature for locking, unlocking and > >> starting compatible vehicles. The latest information indicates that > >> the 2020 "iPhone SE" will be available in 64GB, 128GB and 256GB > >> storage > configurations and will launch in white, black and PRODUCT(RED) > variants. All of this is to say that the new "iPhone SE" > >> will an entry-level device that will lower the barrier of entry for > >> Apple's latest advancements in silicon, making it an attractive > >> choice for users who have been holding out on upgrading from older > >> iPhones for reasons of price or familiarity. iPhone SE availability > >> Rumors about the updated device's launch date have shifted > >> drastically over the years. In summer 2017, reports suggested that > >> a second-generation iPhone SE could debut in early 2018, for example. > >> Now, it appears that the 2020 "iPhone SE" will launch sometime in > >> April 2020. While a credible tipster indicated that Apple would > >> announce the device on Friday, April 3, another leaker said that > >> the launch is slated for April 15. More confusing are case maker > >> leaks, with at least one manufacturer potentially tipping an April > >> 5 release date. At this point, we're comfortable saying that the "iPhone > >> SE" > >> will launch in the very near future. But an exact day is still up > >> in the air. As far as price, that's less clear. But a report from > >> February 2020 suggests that it could start at $399, presumably for > >> the base 64GB tier. That's about on-par with previous iterations of > >> the iPhone SE, and cheaper than Apple's > current lowest-cost iPhone, the $449 iPhone 8. > 'iPhone SE 2' name An iPhone 8-compatible screen protector was updated > to reflect 'iPhone SE' compatibility on Apple's site. > >> The upcoming 4.7-inch device has been given several monikers by > >> leakers, analysts and others in the Apple > blogosphere. That includes "iPhone SE 2" > >> and "iPhone 9. At this point, it appears that the device will > >> simply be dubbed the "iPhone SE," according to an apparent leak > >> from an accessory on Apple's official online storefront. The > >> aforementioned tipster also suggested that Apple would > >> differentiate the new model from past iPhone SE devices by > >> referring to it specifically as an "iPhone SE 2020. It isn't clear > >> if the larger model - if it exists - will be dubbed the "iPhone SE > >> Plus. While an "iPhone 9" and "iPhone 9 Plus" moniker may make more > >> sense to some consumers, the device is likely aimed at filling the gap > >> that the original iPhone SE left. > >> From that perspective, the "iPhone SE" name, in which the SE stands > >> for "special edition," would be in-line with > Apple's past low-cost iPhone strategy. . > >> > >> > >> Richard > >> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in > >> Portland, Oregon. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the V > >> iPhone list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > >> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please > >> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >> itself. > >> > >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > >> mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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