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> On Jun 21, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs were terrified of thunder > storms. > Which school did yours come from? > Maybe they do a better job than some. > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward > Herbert > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert > > I was under the impression guide dog schools tested dogs for this, I have had > 3 dogs and none of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks > or gunshots. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Caitlyn Furness > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert > > The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate vastly improved my GSd > seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks. > > Caitlyn > > >> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney <n4o...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> O' just one more! I used a thunder Shirt with my first Seeing Eye dog all >> the time. They have been around for almost 15 years. They work for some >> dogs and not for others as much. >> -Steve >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Jennie Facer >> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: >> Lightning alert >> >> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but thanks so much to Richard. I will >> go way beyond to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t trying to start >> a flame fight or anuything like that. Thanks for clearing it all up. >> >> Jenn >> >> Jenn and Kumi >> >>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog >>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020 >>> >>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static >>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and >>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property. >>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm, >>> and improve its response to the >>> >>> Part 1 >>> Calming Your Dog >>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't wait until the storm is fully >>> underway to find your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear >>> thunder. >>> >>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If you are upset, your dog will >>> know, and this will only make matters worse. >>> During a storm, give your dog no indications that something is wrong. >>> Follow the same routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a >>> calm, reassuring tone. >>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it that something is wrong. Help >>> your dog by being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy. >>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs. >>> >>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot" for the dog to hide. Ideally, >>> this spot will block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its >>> owner. >>> Here are a few options: >>> • Under a table or bed >>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a closet or >>> windowless bathroom >>> >>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment around your dog or let the dog >>> huddle under your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel reassured by the added >>> pressure, much like a baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to help, >>> consider buying a special anti-anxiety garment, such as the Thundershirt or >>> Anxiety Wrap. The garment should be snug around the dog's chest, but make >>> sure you get one in the correct size for the best result, to ensure the >>> acupressure points throughout the body are being targeted, and to avoid >>> injuring your dog. >>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap) press against acupressure points >>> associated with stress relief. >>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and are concerned about your dog >>> overheating, some garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with water. The >>> air flowing through the moistened fabric will act as a cooling agent. >>> Always supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety. >>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dog and >>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave the house. Consult the product >>> directions for safety information. >>> >>> Block the noise. A loud television, music, or other source of noise >>> (washing machine) can help drown out the thunder. >>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting. >>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help. >>> >>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible, keep your dog away from >>> windows, or put up heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning can be an >>> additional source of anxiety. Block the dog's access to exits, since some >>> scared dogs may try to run away or harm visitors. >>> >>> Play games. >>> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could >>> play fetch or put on music and dance together. Try to find an activity that >>> will turn your dog's attention away from the storm. >>> >>> Consider home remedies. These include herbal and homeopathic remedies to >>> treat anxiety. Always use remedies specifically intended for dogs. Some >>> essential oils that work for humans may cause discomfort or injury in >>> animals. Less concentrated doses are usually required as well. >>> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils are >>> very concentrated and can be harmful to your skin as well as your dog's. >>> They can also damage furniture. >>> • Lavender is one popular option that seems to help dogs, when used in the >>> correct dose. >>> • Another option is petting your dog with a dryer sheet- it reduces static. >>> >>> Talk to your vet about medication. If these methods are ineffective, ask >>> your vet about anti-anxiety medications. >>> Your dog can take some medications such as amitriptyline for the duration >>> of the storm season. There are also quick-acting medications such as >>> acepromazine ("Ace") or diazepam that can be taken for individual storms. >>> >>> • To be effective, quick-acting medications must be administered before >>> your dog exhibits any behavioral changes. >>> • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first. >>> >>> Part 2 >>> Preventing Your Dog's Fear >>> Desensitize your dog. >>> To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording >>> of a thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours, once a week. >>> Each week, if the dog shows no signs of agitation, turn up the volume >>> slightly. It can take a long time for your dog to adapt, but eventually >>> your dog may learn not to fear thunder. >>> • If this agitates your dog too much, start with 5–10 minute daily sessions >>> instead. >>> >>> Expert Trick: While you play thunder sounds for your dog, give them a >>> bone to chew on or toy to play with. Furthermore, you can give your >>> dog treats and give commands to keep their focus on you and make the >>> experience a happy occasion. This will help make thunderstorms seem like a >>> normal experience and keep them from getting scared during a real one. >>> >>> Encourage calm behavior. >>> Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows calm behavior during a storm, >>> or when it obeys a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a >>> "relax," >>> "calm," or "settle" command. >>> • Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effective. >>> For example, treat your house like an indoor obstacle course and lead your >>> dog around asking him/her to perform certain commands. If at any time this >>> appears to be causing more stress, stop, and work on calming your dog. >>> >>> Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with >>> your dog before the storm hits. Prepare indoor activities, and make sure >>> your dog's safe place is set up. >>> >>> • Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or anxiety during a storm. This is >>> not bad behavior – your dog has a genuine phobia. >>> • Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve. >>> • If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to >>> the bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog is unlikely to go outside to >>> relieve itself. >>> >>> >>> From: >>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> .wikihow.com%2FCalm-a-Dog-During-Thunderstorms&data=02%7C01%7C%7C >>> bbdc5dce2c8141f1a58408d81610c483%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7 >>> C1%7C0%7C637283608554222393&sdata=J7FESrhDVyEIMuTd7NENODzW30CBPTE >>> yX81NnHn8m9E%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must >>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of >>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have >>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted >>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Shirley Baker >>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >>> >>> No, it's not. I happen to know some people who have used them on their dogs >>> and they say they help. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Baker >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >>>> >>>> The best I understand, it's not just any sweater or teashirt but it's a >>>> certain kind you buy but someone who knows more can correct me if I'm >>>> wrong. I've heard commercials on TV about buying these special items for >>>> dogs. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> forgive a stjupid question but what is putting a sweater on a dog when >>>>> there is lightening about going to do for the dog? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Facer >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert >>>>> >>>>> Simon, >>>>> >>>>> If you were paying attention to this thread, a person was wanting to put >>>>> a sweater on her dog that makes her feel better when lightning strikes >>>>> and it is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!! >>>>> >>>>> Jenn >>>>> >>>>> Jenn and Kumi >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I >>>>>> don't see the point? >>>>>> >>>>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about >>>>>> it striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it >>>>>> will be way to late to look at your phone as neither yu or your phone >>>>>> will be working. >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Jennie Facer >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Lightning alert >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some time, and it has never alerted me >>>>>> to when lightning has struck. 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