Maybe folks should call their dog guide schools and inquire.
Those schools who have follow-up training
support maybe could come and work with your dog.
That, or check with the Canada school that Sieghard attended.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge
over which he must pass himself,†and we
forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable
that while I have regretted not granting grace
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
My first dog was from Leader Dogs, but that was
a long time ago oin 1994, then in 2005 I got my
second dog from BC Guide Dog Services here in
British Columbia, Canada and that is also where I got my current dog in 2015.
My first and my current dogs are both yellow
labs and my second one was a black lab/golden retriever mix.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
I've known several dog guide owners whose dogs
were terrified of thunder storms.
Which school did yours come from?
Maybe they do a better job than some.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge
over which he must pass himself,†and we
forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable
that while I have regretted not granting grace
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
I was under the impression guide dog schools
tested dogs for this, I have had 3 dogs and none
of them had any fear whatsoever of thunderstorms, fireworks or gunshots.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE: Lightning alert
The conbination of the thunder shirt and a crate
vastly improved my GSd seeing eye dog during thunderstorms and fireworks.
Caitlyn
> On Jun 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Steve Sweeney <n4o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> O' just one more! I used a thunder Shirt
with my first Seeing Eye dog all the
time. They have been around for almost 15
years. They work for some dogs and not for others as much.
> -Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to calm a dog during thunder storms, was RE:
> Lightning alert
>
> I won’t try to keep this thread going, but
thanks so much to Richard. I will go way beyond
to defend these wonderful creatures! I wasn’t
trying to start a flame fight or anuything like
that. Thanks for clearing it all up.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Richard Turner
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> How to Calm a Dog During Thunderstorms Beverly Ulbrich, MBA Dog
>> Behaviorist & Trainer March 25, 2020
>>
>> Many dogs are terrified of thunderstorms. The loud noises, static
>> electricity, and barometric pressure changes cause fear, anxiety, and
>> panic. In this state, dogs can injure themselves and damage property.
>> Learn how to manage your dog's fear during this frightening storm,
>> and improve its response to the
>>
>> Part 1
>> Calming Your Dog
>> Call your dog as the storm begins. Don't
wait until the storm is fully underway to find
your dog. Call your dog to your side as soon as you hear thunder.
>>
>> Remain calm. Your dog can sense anxiety. If
you are upset, your dog will know, and this will only make matters worse.
>> During a storm, give your dog no indications
that something is wrong. Follow the same
routine you would any other night. Smile and speak in a calm, reassuring tone.
>> • Even reassuring the dog can convince it
that something is wronng. Help your dog by
being calm and happy, not by overloading it with sympathy.
>> • Soft singing can help calm some dogs.
>>
>> Find a safe place. Find a small "safe spot"
for the dog to hide. Ideally, this spot will
block light and noise, while allowing the dog to be near its owner.
>> Here are a few options:
>> • Under a table or bed
>> • In a dog crate, with a blanket draped over it • In a ca closet or
>> windowless bathroom
>>
>> Swaddle your dog. Try wrapping a garment
around your dog or let the dog huddle under
your arm on the sofa. Your dog may feel
reassured by the added pressure, much like a
baby feels safe when swaddled. If this seems to
help, consider buying a special anti-anxiety
garment, such as the Thundershirt or Anxiety
Wrap. The garment should be snug around the
dog's chest, but make sure you get one in the
correct size for the best result, to ensure the
acupressure points throughout the body are
being targeted, and to avoid injuring your dog.
>> • Some of these garments (Anxiety Wrap)
press against acupressurre points associated with stress relief.
>> • If you're in hot weather conditions and
are concerned about yoour dog overheating, some
garments (Anxiety Wrap) can be moistened with
water. The air flowing through the moistened
fabric will act as a cooling agent. Always
supervise your dog if you're concerned about health/safety.
>> • Some of these garments are also appropriate to put on your dogg and
>> help him/her stay calm if you need to leave
the house. Consult the product directions for safety information.
>>
>> Block the noise. A loud television, music,
or other source of noise (washing machine) can help drown out the thunder.
>> Choose a sound your dog finds familiar and comforting.
>> • Covering the dog's ears can also help.
>>
>> Avoid windows and the outdoors. If possible,
keep your dog away from windows, or put up
heavy curtains. Seeing the flash of lightning
can be an additional source of anxiety. Block
the dog's access to exits, since some scared
dogs may try to run away or harm visitors.
>>
>> Play games.
>> Encourage your dog to participate in indoor activities. You could
>> play fetch or put on music and dance
together. Try to find an activity that will
turn your dog's attention away from the storm.
>>
>> Consider home remedies. These include herbal
and homeopathic remedies to treat anxiety.
Always use remedies specifically intended for
dogs. Some essential oils that work for humans
may cause discomfort or injury in animals. Less
concentrated doses are usually required as well.
>> • Be sure to consult your veterinarian before using, the oils arre
>> very concentrated and can be harmful to your
skin as well as your dog's. They can also damage furniture.
>> • Lavender is one popular option that seems
to help dogs, when uused in the correct dose.
>> • Another option is petting your dog with a
dryer sheet- it reduuces static.
>>
>> Talk to your vet about medication. If these
methods are ineffective, ask your vet about anti-anxiety medications.
>> Your dog can take some medications such as
amitriptyline for the duration of the storm
season. There are also quick-acting medications
such as acepromazine ("Ace") or diazepam that
can be taken for individual storms.
>>
>> • To be effective, quick-acting medications
must be administeredd before your dog exhibits any behavioral changes.
>> • Never give a dog medication without consulting a veterinarian first.
>>
>> Part 2
>> Preventing Your Dog's Fear
>> Desensitize your dog.
>> To teach your dog that storms are nothing to fear, play a recording
>> of a thunderstorm on very low volume for several hours, once a week.
>> Each week, if the dog shows no signs of
agitation, turn up the volume slightly. It can
take a long time for your dog to adapt, but
eventually your dog may learn not to fear thunder.
>> • If this agitates your dog too much, start
with 510 mi minute daily sessions instead.
>>
>> Expert Trick: While you play thunder sounds for your dog, give them a
>> bone to chew on or toy to play with. Furthermore, you can give your
>> dog treats and give commands to keep their
focus on you and make the experience a happy
occasion. This will help make thunderstorms
seem like a normal experience and keep them
from getting scared during a real one.
>>
>> Encourage calm behavior.
>> Give your dog a treat or a toy when it shows
calm behavior during a storm, or when it obeys
a command despite its fear. Train it to respond to a "relax,"
>> "calm," or "settle" command.
>> • Training your dog with an indoor leash is also highly effectivve.
>> For example, treat your house like an indoor
obstacle course and lead your dog around asking
him/her to perform certain commands. If at any
time this appears to be causing more stress,
stop, and work on calming your dog.
>>
>> Anticipate your dog's fear. To curb stress and anxiety, engage with
>> your dog before the storm hits. Prepare
indoor activities, and make sure your dog's safe place is set up.
>>
>> • Do not punish a dog exhibiting fear or
anxiety during a storm.. This is not bad
behavior your dog has a genuine phobia.
>> • Be patient and kind. It may take time for your dog to improve..
>> • If you know a thunderstorm is coming, let your dog outside to go to
>> the bathroom. Once the storm starts the dog
is unlikely to go outside to relieve itself.
>>
>>
>> From:
>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
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>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,†and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
>> Of Shirley Baker
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 6:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>
>> No, it's not. I happen to know some people
who have used them on their dogs and they say they help.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> are you sure this just isn't a scam to get you to spend money?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Baker
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>>
>>> The best I understand, it's not just any
sweater or teashirt but it's a certain kind you
buy but someone who knows more can correct me
if I'm wrong. I've heard commercials on TV
about buying these special items for dogs.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> forgive a stjupid question but what is
putting a sweater on a dog when there is
lightening about going to do for the dog?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jennie Facer
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 2:02 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Lightning alert
>>>>
>>>> Simon,
>>>>
>>>> If you were paying attention to this
thread, a person was wanting to put a sweater
on her dog that makes her feel better when
lightning strikes and it is thundering. She is doing it for her dog!!!
>>>>
>>>> Jenn
>>>>
>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Simon A
Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If an app is going to tell you when lightening has struck, I
>>>>> don't see the point?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's struck then it's not an issue And if you're worried about
>>>>> it striking you when you're out, Then if it's already struck, it
>>>>> will be way to late to look at your phone
as neither yu or your phone will be working.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Jennie Facer
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 9:00 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Lightning alert
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had Weather Gods for quite some
time, and it has never alerted me to when
lightning has struck. Other than that, I love the app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>>
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