I think you’re right there Richard iPads had a larger charging brick 10 Watts, 
5 Volt at 2 Amps.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 14 Dec 2020, at 16:34, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The iPad chargers with the older iPads, like my wife's Ipad Mini 2 and 5 
> came with a 10 volt block I believe, which is why I guess it was larger than 
> the iPhone charging blocks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 8:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Tutorial on iDevice chargers and cables was RE: searching for a 
> cable
> 
> The old USB A stock Apple chargers output 5 Volts at 1 Amp giving you an 
> output of 5 Watts.  Watts equals Volts times Amps.
> 
> Other chargers with a USB A output port like those made by Anker either 
> charged at 5 Volts and 2 or 2.5 Amps.  This gives 10 or 12.5 Watts.  Phones 
> older than the iPhone 8 can accept charge of 5, 10 or 12.5 Watts.
> 
> From the iPhone 8 onwards you can fast charge at 18 Watts that’s 9 Volts at 2 
> Amps.  Chargers that will fast charge an iPhone will have a USB C type port.  
> So you will need a USB C to lightning cable to go with a fast charge capable 
> charger.
> 
> My understanding is that iPhones 12 come with a Lightning to USB C cable but 
> no charger.
> 
> Not sure about iPads.  Do they still come with chargers?
> 
> Power packs also have similar charging profiles and hardware as wall chargers 
> do.
> 
> Wireless charging is done at a lower power 7.5 Watts if my memory serves me 
> right.  So your 5 Watt stock charger will not even charge your phone at 
> maximum rate when used with some wireless charging options.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2020, at 16:11, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Vicki and List,
>> 
>> I'll let Malcolm explain any of the electrical nuances regarding iDevice 
>> chargers but it feels as if a quick overview of the connectors and cables is 
>> appropriate especially since Apple is no longer including charging bricks 
>> with new devices. All Apple portable devices since I believe the iPhone 5 
>> have a female lightning port for wired charging. Older charging bricks 
>> provided by Apple had type A USB female ports which were the same as USB 
>> ports on a standard computer. Therefore, the cables provided by Apple with 
>> older iDevices had a USB type A male connector at one end for plugging into 
>> the charging brick and a lightning male connector at the other end for 
>> plugging into the device. Fast chargers started being introduced I believe 
>> with the iPhone 10. Instead of having a USB type A female port, these 
>> chargers have a USB type C female port. So, if you are purchasing a cable to 
>> charge an iDevice with one of these fast chargers, it must have a USB C male 
>> connector on one end and a male lightning connector on the other end.
>> 
>> Vicki, I suspect your brick with the two charging ports contains two USB 
>> type A female ports. I have a similar charger made by anker. I don't like 
>> making assumptions when advising someone on what to purchase so you'll have 
>> to decide which charging brick works best for you before cable shopping. I 
>> personally feel having both type of cables I described above is handy. I 
>> also think having a charger or charging brick with both USB type A female 
>> and USB type C female ports is handy. Anker is a great source for all cables 
>> and chargers in my opinion but make sure you always get the MFI (made for 
>> iPhone) certified ones.
>> 
>> Amazon has the Anker 6ft Premium Double-Braided Nylon Lightning Cable, Apple 
>> MFi Certified for iPhone Chargers, iPhone X/8/8 Plus/7/7 Plus/6/6 Plus/5s, 
>> iPad Pro Air 2, and More(Black) which is rated 4.7 stars and cost $14.99 
>> available at this site:
>> 
>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> amazon.com%2FAnker-Premium-Lightning-Certified-Chargers%2Fdp%2FB078NR6
>> ZK3%2Fref%3Dsr_1_10%3Fdchild%3D1%26keywords%3DAnker%252Blightning%252B
>> cable%252B6%252Bfeet%26qid%3D1607960953%26s%3Delectronics%26sr%3D1-10%
>> 26th%3D1&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C05966ff3d98c44c9bdc008d8a04d3967%7C84df
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>> 
>> I'll caution you to be careful when shopping for cables at Amazon because 
>> I'm finding that lately their worded product descriptions aren't always 
>> accurate. I've particularly noticed a tendency to say that a connector is 
>> USB type C when the picture clearly has a USB type A connector on the cable. 
>> The sighted world seems hellbent and getting their pictures right but seem 
>> to be playing fast and loose with their words. I have the above cable  and 
>> have been very happy with it. I also have an Anker fast charger with a 6 
>> foot Anker USB C to lightning cable and have been very happy with those too.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 8:46 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: searching for a cable
>> 
>> Your current charging brick will work fine.  It will simply not charge your 
>> device at the fastest possible rate but if that s not important to you then 
>> you ll be fine.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 14 Dec 2020, at 14:36, Vicki W. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?It uses a standard lightning port. I guess what I'm asking is, do I need a 
>>> brick made for a lightning cable, or will my older standard usb charging 
>>> brick work with both a lightning cable and a regular charging cable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:18 AM
>>> Subject: RE: searching for a cable
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From the brick that will have a USB-C port in it
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 2:54 am
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: searching for a cable
>>> 
>>> Isn't the latest iPad Mini the 5th gen that uses the standard lightning 
>>> port?
>>> 
>>> Why would one need a USBC cable?
>>> 
>>> Yes, Anchor makes very solid products.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
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>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
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>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 5:36 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: searching for a cable
>>> 
>>> I'd recommend getting an anker cable from amazon.  Anker makes great cables 
>>> as well as wall blocks and portable batteries.  There is a 20 watt anker 
>>> wall block that would work great with your iPad.  You could get a USBC to 
>>> lightning 6 foot cable and a 20 watt USBC wall block for some fast 
>>> charging. Good luck.
>>> 
>>>>> On 12/14/20, Vicki W. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I have just purchased the latest mini IPad and I need a lightning to 
>>>> USB charging cable that is at least 6  feet long. Any suggestions as 
>>>> to what to purchase and do I need to use a special brick? I won't be 
>>>> using the brick in the box, but I have a charger that I've been 
>>>> using for regular charging on my phone and old mini Ipad which will 
>>>> charge two devices at once. Will that one work with the lightning to USB 
>>>> cable?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Vicki
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