Eh it's not time to end this subject???

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> Le 22 juill. 2021 à 18:51, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi Sieghard
>  
> Yes fully understand that,
>  
> But when they get their data uncapped they shouldn’t have to worry about it.
>  
> And all their family have iPhones,
> Although extended family there are 2 androids,
>  
> But still
> Sms use bugger all data,
>  
> But hey it’s the younger generation,
>  
> They’re always finding something wrong.
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, 23 July 2021 3:08 am
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: has anyone tried these apps
>  
> Simon, your nieces are correct, if you use iMessage and send a message to 
> another person who has an iOS device and has iMessage turned on or in other 
> words if the message is sent as an iMessage and not an SMS or MMS then indeed 
> mobile data is used. Of course if they use Instagram then they also use 
> mobile data and probably a lot more than if they simply sent an iMessage 
> especially if they first spend 5 minutes scrolling through everybody's latest 
> posts and pictures.
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 9:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: has anyone tried these apps
>  
> Hey Sieghard
>  
> Thanks for that article,
>  
> Very interesting
>  
> I use iMessage by default as most people I message have iPhones.
>  
> But it’s interesting the mind set of some people,
>  
> My neaces wont use iMessage because they think it uses their mobile data so 
> they have all turned it off and simply use sms on their iPhones, or they 
> message friends using Instagram
>  
> The android folks is no way to get around things
>  
> But it’s interesting and yet concerning how these hackers / man in the middle 
> type attacks are growing on / with mobile devices.
>  
> Cheers again for a great read.
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2021 4:09 am
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: has anyone tried these apps
>  
> Sorry, I accidently sent my previous message without providing the link to 
> the article I referenced and cleaning up a few false starts, here is that 
> link:
>  
> Why You Should Stop Sending SMS Messages—Even On Apple iMessage
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:54 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: has anyone tried these apps
>  
> Dan, What is the "zero click effort?" Sounds important enough to ask, being 
> that you are searching for a different messaging app.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> 
> I was considering trying some different messaging apps since there is another 
> zero click effort going on.  These reportedly have protections against zero 
> click attacks and thought I'd ask here before going through the effort myself.
> 
>  
> 
> The apps are:
> 
>  
> 
> Threema
> 
> Telegram Messenger
> 
> Signal
> 
>  
> 
> Not sure about using Telegram Messenger because of its storing everything in 
> the cloud and I do not trust cloud storage very much though.
> 
>  
> 
> Any experiences appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
>  
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