My own two cents is that this thread is already winding down, but even if it weren’t, I’d say isn’t time to end this thread yet. Of course, if you want the moderator to end the thread, I’d suggest following the instructions from the moderator at the end of every message, namely:
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: has anyone tried these apps Eh it's not time to end this subject??? Lyne Le 22 juill. 2021 à 18:51, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit : Hi Sieghard Yes fully understand that, But when they get their data uncapped they shouldn’t have to worry about it. And all their family have iPhones, Although extended family there are 2 androids, But still Sms use bugger all data, But hey it’s the younger generation, They’re always finding something wrong. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, 23 July 2021 3:08 am To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: has anyone tried these apps Simon, your nieces are correct, if you use iMessage and send a message to another person who has an iOS device and has iMessage turned on or in other words if the message is sent as an iMessage and not an SMS or MMS then indeed mobile data is used. Of course if they use Instagram then they also use mobile data and probably a lot more than if they simply sent an iMessage especially if they first spend 5 minutes scrolling through everybody's latest posts and pictures. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 9:27 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: has anyone tried these apps Hey Sieghard Thanks for that article, Very interesting I use iMessage by default as most people I message have iPhones. But it’s interesting the mind set of some people, My neaces wont use iMessage because they think it uses their mobile data so they have all turned it off and simply use sms on their iPhones, or they message friends using Instagram The android folks is no way to get around things But it’s interesting and yet concerning how these hackers / man in the middle type attacks are growing on / with mobile devices. Cheers again for a great read. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2021 4:09 am To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: has anyone tried these apps Sorry, I accidently sent my previous message without providing the link to the article I referenced and cleaning up a few false starts, here is that link: Why You Should Stop Sending SMS Messages—Even On Apple iMessage<read://https_www.forbes.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fzakdoffman%2F2020%2F08%2F08%2Fapple-iphone-ipad-imessage-security-update-sms-rcs-google-whatsapp-encryption%2F%3Fsh%3D1fa98de95b4d> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:54 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: has anyone tried these apps Dan, What is the "zero click effort?" 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