I don't recall noticing this with my iPhone 8, but certainly I rarely think my 
iPhone 11 is even warm unless maybe I fall asleep listening to an Audible book 
and it's pushed under my blanket or pillow.
You say you are a very "heavy phone user", what tasks exactly do you do? Are 
you a heavy user because you do a lot of phone calls, texting and email or do 
you use GPS a lot, do a lot of stuff on social media, listening to audio and 
video?
And thinking of the things you do most, do you find doing them easier and more 
intuitive on the iPhone or your iPad or on your Android phone?
Also, since you obviously have an iPad, would it not make more sense to have an 
iPhone because the two devices by now play so well together? I think those are 
all things which are more important than how fast the clock speed on the 
processor is or whether one phone has a bit more RAM than another. I think 
Android phones at least in the past often had more RAM, but they still did not 
perform better because Apple's iOS just used the available hardware so much 
more efficiently.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Loreal 
Lavigna
Sent: October 29, 2021 3:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra


I know with earlier devices there was a major issue with temperatures heating 
up Both with use as well as charging. Is that still a major issue with Apple 
Ios devices? I have not seen this with my ipad but have seen it with  an iPhone 
8 I borrowed to do a test run recently.

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 6:21 AM Dennis Long 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The batteries ar much bigger in this years phones.  I would go with a pro or 
pro max.

Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE


On Oct 29, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Loreal Lavigna 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Agreed. Frankly I prefer the dictation on Apple versus that on android. I went 
with android for quite a while because of the fact that the processor speeds  
of the devices I was using were  at that point faster than iPhone. Plus of 
course battery longevity is a major thing for me as well. I am a very heavy 
phone user, and  presently while I can get my android battery to last me almost 
the whole day with moderate use and about half the day with extremely heavy 
use, I'm wondering how
the battery on the newer iphones is.

Thank you for your thoughts!

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 6:01 AM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dennis thats true and the more point is: there are so many android platforms 
which do all vary from each other.
I hear that blind people using android are so upset that so few blinds will 
make the plunge but I understand this, alsof or the centers of education for 
blind people. An iphone or ani pad are Apple based and accessibility is just 
the same to get educated. For each android phone education in talkback or the 
own overlaid screenreader is different really for each brand or model, for 
Apple it is all the same, voiceover is voiceover and thats it, for talkback 
Talkback is applied in so many and different ways pro model, phone or apps.
Davy

Van: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Namens Dennis Long
Verzonden: vrijdag 29 oktober 2021 10:26
Aan: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Onderwerp: Re: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

In my opinion iOS has better accessibility.  I have used both platforms.

Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE

On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:01 AM, Loreal Lavigna 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thank you.  I’m absolutely aware of the fact this is an IPhone users list, 
having been on here for almost 10 years since I owned my first IPhone back in 
2011.  I was only trying to see if anyone knew of any of the information for 
which I was looking, so I could ultimately make my choice to go with the IPhone 
or stay with Android and wait another four plus months to upgrade to a later 
device.  The articles I’ve found online simply don’t answer the questions I had 
factually but instead, most of them are opinion-based if not preference-based 
reportings of IPhone VS. Android.  I was truly hoping someone with the IPhone 
13 Pro Max might be willing to comment on the device’s performance which might 
have gone a bit further in helping me make my decision.

Thanks for your response.


Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188
E-Mail:  [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 1:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

Your message came through, if you didn't receive a response it is most likely 
because nobody felt they had the information you required. This is an iPhone 
list after all and while I know a number of people also have Android devices it 
is maybe not so likely somebody would drop $1,000 or more on an iPhone and the 
same on the latest and greatest Android phone. I think nowadays any of these 
high-end phones are very good and what is more the technology in them is much 
more mature than even 6 years ago and in my opinion you should probably decide 
which platform you feel more comfortable with and especially since you had both 
Android phones and iPhones you probably have a preference; I wouldn't worry too 
much about the hardware as most regular users never come even close to 
exhausting the capabilities of what the processors nowadays are capable of. 
Just my thoughts.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Loreal 
Lavigna
Sent: October 28, 2021 7:30 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: FW: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
Importance: High

I sent the following message to the list and have heard nothing in response.  
Are my messages even going through to the list?  I need information as soon as 
possible, as I need a working phone, and the problems I’m experiencing with my 
device are simply too extensive for me to wait it out for another few months.

From: Loreal Lavigna <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:54 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
Importance: High

Hello,

I’ve been both an IPhone and Android user respectively over the past ten years 
– first IPhone from November of 2011 to June of 2013, then again for a brief 
period from June of 2014 through January of 2015; and Android first from June 
of 2013 through June of 2014, then January of 2015 through to present day.  
Most people who have known me during the last few years and even earlier back 
into the late 2000’s with the late Windows Mobile devices will recall I usually 
am one of the ones who does her research and helps others out with their 
issues.  Now though, it’s me who could use a little help.

I’m doing some research and don’t want to miss anything like I did six years 
ago.  I want to research the differences between the most high-end IPhone 13 
Pro Max and the Samsung Galaxy equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G.    
Both are 5G capable devices, both come in the storage capacities I’m interested 
in.  Specifically I’m looking at the following:


1.       Battery life:  In looking at the two devices, I have found several 
differing writeups on the internet claiming either of the devices is better 
than the other, but not giving any real specifics from the viewpoint of a user 
who uses accessibility features such as VoiceOver on IOS and TalkBack on 
Android.  I want to know which of these devices’ batteries is more long-lasting 
with the use of the accessibility features running.  If anyone has information 
about the battery usage without the accessibility features running as well, so 
much the better.  I can make an even better-informed decision at the end of the 
day.

2.       RAM/Processor speed:  I’m looking specifically at RAM/processor speed 
and how fast each device measures up in a truly fair comparison.  Which of 
these devices will ultimately be able to be used and not lag too much both with 
and/or without the accessibility features running?  I’ve also read differing 
opinions on this and with each of these devices being named the truly better 
device.  I’d like to see how much of what I’ve discovered thus far is fact as 
opposed to fiction as opposed to simple preference and opinion but not based on 
facts of device performance.

3.       Storage:  While internal capacity on both devices is equivalent in so 
far as I can get, I believe, the capacity internally I want on each of these 
two devices, I don’t believe there’s too much to compare here since it is my 
understanding that the slot for the MicroSD Card on the Samsung Galaxy S21 
Ultra and going forward is being or has finally truly been done away with.  I 
did do some research and so far have found some differing opinions on this of 
whether the forthcoming Galaxy S22 Ultra will or will not ultimately have the 
SD Card slot.  Either way, it doesn’t make too much a difference to me, as if I 
can get either of these devices in 512 GB or even better the 1TB internal 
capacity, then I won’t have much need for memory expansion.  I already have 
cloud storage with both Apple and Google, and can access my google cloud 
storage from Apple if the need should arise and I run out of my ICloud storage 
(highly unlikely).

Six years ago I got what I was told clearly by someone looking to make a sale 
that the IPhone 5S was the equivalent to the Samsumg Galaxy S5 device in every 
way, shape, and form.  This was proven to be false, as I would later find 
within three weeks of owning the IPhone 5S, the speed of the device/reaction 
time was less than half that of the Samsung Galaxy S5.  Keep in mind, this was 
six years ago, and things in both camps have changed significantly since then.

I’m with T-Mobile now by default, as Sprint was bought out by them, and 
eventually everything that hasn’t as of yet will be switched completely over to 
T-Mobile.  Ultimately, I’m looking to upgrade my phone for a couple reasons.

First, I’m buying my current Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G device outright and 
will be giving it, temporarily, to my husband who needs a 5G device and has 
zero trade-in value for his current device, the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Ultra.  
This happened because we weren’t given the option for him to opt in and buy his 
phone outright, and he’s now only renting the phone since his leas ended back 
in February.

Second, ever since the buy-out of Sprint by T-Mobile, I’ve gone through two 
sets of CIM Cards on both my and my husband’s phones, and we’re experiencing 
issues with our current devices, his far worse than mine since his CIM card is 
a 5G but his phone is not a 5G-capable phone.  It is my hope that by upgrading 
devices that perhaps the issues we’re experiencing will become less and less if 
not cease altogether.

Thank you in advance for any information anyone might have.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188
E-Mail:  [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Website:  Click here for Transcripts By 
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