I’m going to do a brief reply now because this device is about to die lol. I will respond in greater detail from my laptop. I want to thank you first for all your insight and information! I truly appreciate it and will absolutely without question reach out because I know as good and tech savvy as I am when it comes to Apple, android, windows, whatever, there are things that even I have to admit I need help with.
Loreal Sent from my iPad > On Oct 29, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Nimer Jaber <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am typing this quickly, with limited time, so please excuse any spelling or > gramar mistakes, or any incomplete thoughts. If you have questions, please > get in touch. > > I am an Android user primarily, but also have an iOS device, and have used > iOS devices. I am also a tech trainer. > > Both platforms are different. Which is better will depend on your needs, and > what you value out of a device. Which is better will also depend on what you > have been used to, and what your primary interaction with your device is. > Android phones differ even from each other in that there are many models, > many brands, many screen sizes, many battery sizes, many different price > points, etc. So, if you are looking to get a phone with a specific price in > mind, as an example, or if you are looking for a phone with a curved front > and back, or a phone with an infrared sensor to control your TV and other > appliances, you have choice. > The software is also different, with different manufacturers making their own > modifications to Android to make it look different. This matters because some > devices will implement accessibility differently. Some will offer features > that others don't, such as much better spam filtering in the dialer, the > ability to have the assistant wait on hold for you so you don't need to be > paying attention to your device and alert you when a representative is on the > line, etc. Screen reader behavior is different across devices, so his can be > a positive or a negative, depending on your preferences and your needs. > Magnification features might also differ. > Android has a lot of customization. Do you want widgets in a specific spot on > your home screen? You can do that. Do you want apps on your home screens > similar to iOS layout? You can do that. Do you want a minimal home screen > with one page and nothing on it, with apps sorted alphabetically in the app > drawer? You can do that. Do you want to dig into the developer settings to > change which bluetooth codec is used by your headset? You can do that, too. > Do you want to change your theme? You can do that, and make your phone look > completely different. Do you want an entirely new launcher, a 3rd-party > texting app, a different email client to be your default? You can do that too. > iOS is more customizable for accessibility settings. You have more > customization for what you can achieve with Voiceover. I don't think most > users really customize either screen reader very much, but it is possible if > you are a user who does do this. > iOS has superior Braille support. If you are a Braille user, stick with iOS. > iOS devices are updated longer than even the longest update cycle for any > Android phone. The extent that this matters depends on how often you update > your device, but it is something to be aware of. > Android devices are not updated as long, with budget devices lucky to see one > major update, and very slow security and software updates. Updates also > depend on the carrier for most Android devices, so some carriers may provide > more timely updates. > Android accessibility is not as customizable, and this is certainly true for > screen readers. The extent that this matters really depends on how much > customization you do of your screen reader. > Android, at this time, lacks features that are found in many screen readers, > such as the ability to read by column or row in a table, or the ability to > choose how caller ID is read out. > Sometimes, too much customization can lead to confusion for users, especially > as you first need to do research as to which phone to get, and which will > provide what you're looking for, and which will provide the best > accessibility experience. > Android lacks usable Braille support. > iOS is not as customizable with most things, though this is slowly changing, > with iOS adopting widgets, a sort of app drawer, and more. But there is > really only one iPhone *with two-three different sizes*, but the > functionality is similar, the features are similar, the look is similar, etc. > iOS makes use of the rotor and multi-finger gestures much more so than > Androidd. Until recently, iOS did not provide gesture customization, which > Android has had for a long time. Android, on the other hand, has both > multi-finger gestures, and the ability to use angle gestures, making for > easier one-handed use (unless you customize your iOS gestures) but even then, > angle gestures are not available. > iOS settings are too spread out, with some app settings being found in the > app itself, and others require digging through settings. While you can search > for a setting, it's still true that Android settings are much more > streamlined. > iOS does not allow for installing 3rd-party TTS engines or screen readers. > While it is true that Voiceover is good, it is also true that it is the only > choice you have. > iOS makes it more difficult to be cross-platform. For example, if you wish to > use Android, you can text from the web or from the your phone app in Windows. > You can text on the web using any platform with a web browser. You can > connect your device to your computer and transfer files or ringtones to it. > You can even control your Android phone from your computer within Windows. > You can receive your notifications on your Windows or Chromebook machine. > Windows 11 will be allowing access to Android apps, and Chromebooks already > support Android apps. With iOS, continuity is great only if you are also > using other Apple products. > iOS does not allow for easy access to advanced functionality through the > computer. As an example, if I wanted to, I could remove apps that are > preinstalled on my device, enable TalkBack, install apps not from the play > store, etc. etc. by using tools such as ADB. This may not matter to many, but > it is still something I value. > > I have no doubt that I am missing some things, but the point is, both > platforms are great, and both are painful. To the extent that one is better > than the other will depend on your needs, what you care about and look for, > your budget, etc. I am an Android user because I value flexibility, > customization, device choice, etc. Both platforms are drifting closer > together. Android is improving in accessibility, and iOS is improving in > customization. Isn't that great? We can now, or will be soon, able to choose > a platform based on things we care about, rather than its level of > accessibility. > > Hope this helps. > > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 1:25 AM Dennis Long <[email protected]> wrote: >> In my opinion iOS has better accessibility. I have used both platforms. >> >> >> Dennis Long >> Sent from my iPhone SE >> >>>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:01 AM, Loreal Lavigna <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Thank you. I’m absolutely aware of the fact this is an IPhone users list, >>> having been on here for almost 10 years since I owned my first IPhone back >>> in 2011. I was only trying to see if anyone knew of any of the information >>> for which I was looking, so I could ultimately make my choice to go with >>> the IPhone or stay with Android and wait another four plus months to >>> upgrade to a later device. The articles I’ve found online simply don’t >>> answer the questions I had factually but instead, most of them are >>> opinion-based if not preference-based reportings of IPhone VS. Android. I >>> was truly hoping someone with the IPhone 13 Pro Max might be willing to >>> comment on the device’s performance which might have gone a bit further in >>> helping me make my decision. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your response. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Loreal Lavigna >>> >>> General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist >>> >>> Phone: (518)330-5188 >>> >>> E-Mail: [email protected] >>> >>> Website: Click here for Transcripts By Loreal >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 1:51 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra >>> >>> >>> >>> Your message came through, if you didn't receive a response it is most >>> likely because nobody felt they had the information you required. This is >>> an iPhone list after all and while I know a number of people also have >>> Android devices it is maybe not so likely somebody would drop $1,000 or >>> more on an iPhone and the same on the latest and greatest Android phone. I >>> think nowadays any of these high-end phones are very good and what is more >>> the technology in them is much more mature than even 6 years ago and in my >>> opinion you should probably decide which platform you feel more comfortable >>> with and especially since you had both Android phones and iPhones you >>> probably have a preference; I wouldn't worry too much about the hardware as >>> most regular users never come even close to exhausting the capabilities of >>> what the processors nowadays are capable of. Just my thoughts. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Loreal Lavigna >>> Sent: October 28, 2021 7:30 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: FW: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra >>> Importance: High >>> >>> >>> >>> I sent the following message to the list and have heard nothing in >>> response. Are my messages even going through to the list? I need >>> information as soon as possible, as I need a working phone, and the >>> problems I’m experiencing with my device are simply too extensive for me to >>> wait it out for another few months. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Loreal Lavigna <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:54 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra >>> Importance: High >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> >>> I’ve been both an IPhone and Android user respectively over the past ten >>> years – first IPhone from November of 2011 to June of 2013, then again for >>> a brief period from June of 2014 through January of 2015; and Android first >>> from June of 2013 through June of 2014, then January of 2015 through to >>> present day. Most people who have known me during the last few years and >>> even earlier back into the late 2000’s with the late Windows Mobile devices >>> will recall I usually am one of the ones who does her research and helps >>> others out with their issues. Now though, it’s me who could use a little >>> help. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m doing some research and don’t want to miss anything like I did six >>> years ago. I want to research the differences between the most high-end >>> IPhone 13 Pro Max and the Samsung Galaxy equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy S21 >>> Ultra 5G. Both are 5G capable devices, both come in the storage >>> capacities I’m interested in. Specifically I’m looking at the following: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Battery life: In looking at the two devices, I have found several >>> differing writeups on the internet claiming either of the devices is better >>> than the other, but not giving any real specifics from the viewpoint of a >>> user who uses accessibility features such as VoiceOver on IOS and TalkBack >>> on Android. I want to know which of these devices’ batteries is more >>> long-lasting with the use of the accessibility features running. If anyone >>> has information about the battery usage without the accessibility features >>> running as well, so much the better. I can make an even better-informed >>> decision at the end of the day. >>> >>> 2. RAM/Processor speed: I’m looking specifically at RAM/processor >>> speed and how fast each device measures up in a truly fair comparison. >>> Which of these devices will ultimately be able to be used and not lag too >>> much both with and/or without the accessibility features running? I’ve >>> also read differing opinions on this and with each of these devices being >>> named the truly better device. I’d like to see how much of what I’ve >>> discovered thus far is fact as opposed to fiction as opposed to simple >>> preference and opinion but not based on facts of device performance. >>> >>> 3. Storage: While internal capacity on both devices is equivalent in >>> so far as I can get, I believe, the capacity internally I want on each of >>> these two devices, I don’t believe there’s too much to compare here since >>> it is my understanding that the slot for the MicroSD Card on the Samsung >>> Galaxy S21 Ultra and going forward is being or has finally truly been done >>> away with. I did do some research and so far have found some differing >>> opinions on this of whether the forthcoming Galaxy S22 Ultra will or will >>> not ultimately have the SD Card slot. Either way, it doesn’t make too much >>> a difference to me, as if I can get either of these devices in 512 GB or >>> even better the 1TB internal capacity, then I won’t have much need for >>> memory expansion. I already have cloud storage with both Apple and Google, >>> and can access my google cloud storage from Apple if the need should arise >>> and I run out of my ICloud storage (highly unlikely). >>> >>> >>> >>> Six years ago I got what I was told clearly by someone looking to make a >>> sale that the IPhone 5S was the equivalent to the Samsumg Galaxy S5 device >>> in every way, shape, and form. This was proven to be false, as I would >>> later find within three weeks of owning the IPhone 5S, the speed of the >>> device/reaction time was less than half that of the Samsung Galaxy S5. >>> Keep in mind, this was six years ago, and things in both camps have changed >>> significantly since then. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m with T-Mobile now by default, as Sprint was bought out by them, and >>> eventually everything that hasn’t as of yet will be switched completely >>> over to T-Mobile. Ultimately, I’m looking to upgrade my phone for a couple >>> reasons. >>> >>> >>> >>> First, I’m buying my current Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G device outright >>> and will be giving it, temporarily, to my husband who needs a 5G device and >>> has zero trade-in value for his current device, the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 >>> Ultra. This happened because we weren’t given the option for him to opt in >>> and buy his phone outright, and he’s now only renting the phone since his >>> leas ended back in February. >>> >>> >>> >>> Second, ever since the buy-out of Sprint by T-Mobile, I’ve gone through two >>> sets of CIM Cards on both my and my husband’s phones, and we’re >>> experiencing issues with our current devices, his far worse than mine since >>> his CIM card is a 5G but his phone is not a 5G-capable phone. It is my >>> hope that by upgrading devices that perhaps the issues we’re experiencing >>> will become less and less if not cease altogether. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you in advance for any information anyone might have. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Loreal Lavigna >>> >>> General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist >>> >>> Phone: (518)330-5188 >>> >>> E-Mail: [email protected] >>> >>> Website: Click here for Transcripts By Loreal >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> [email protected]. 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