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I am an Android user primarily, but also have an iOS device, and have used iOS devices. I am also a tech trainer. Both platforms are different. Which is better will depend on your needs, and what you value out of a device. Which is better will also depend on what you have been used to, and what your primary interaction with your device is. - Android phones differ even from each other in that there are many models, many brands, many screen sizes, many battery sizes, many different price points, etc. So, if you are looking to get a phone with a specific price in mind, as an example, or if you are looking for a phone with a curved front and back, or a phone with an infrared sensor to control your TV and other appliances, you have choice. - The software is also different, with different manufacturers making their own modifications to Android to make it look different. This matters because some devices will implement accessibility differently. Some will offer features that others don't, such as much better spam filtering in the dialer, the ability to have the assistant wait on hold for you so you don't need to be paying attention to your device and alert you when a representative is on the line, etc. Screen reader behavior is different across devices, so his can be a positive or a negative, depending on your preferences and your needs. Magnification features might also differ. - Android has a lot of customization. Do you want widgets in a specific spot on your home screen? You can do that. Do you want apps on your home screens similar to iOS layout? You can do that. Do you want a minimal home screen with one page and nothing on it, with apps sorted alphabetically in the app drawer? You can do that. Do you want to dig into the developer settings to change which bluetooth codec is used by your headset? You can do that, too. Do you want to change your theme? You can do that, and make your phone look completely different. Do you want an entirely new launcher, a 3rd-party texting app, a different email client to be your default? You can do that too. - iOS is more customizable for accessibility settings. You have more customization for what you can achieve with Voiceover. I don't think most users really customize either screen reader very much, but it is possible if you are a user who does do this. - iOS has superior Braille support. If you are a Braille user, stick with iOS. - iOS devices are updated longer than even the longest update cycle for any Android phone. The extent that this matters depends on how often you update your device, but it is something to be aware of. - Android devices are not updated as long, with budget devices lucky to see one major update, and very slow security and software updates. Updates also depend on the carrier for most Android devices, so some carriers may provide more timely updates. - Android accessibility is not as customizable, and this is certainly true for screen readers. The extent that this matters really depends on how much customization you do of your screen reader. - Android, at this time, lacks features that are found in many screen readers, such as the ability to read by column or row in a table, or the ability to choose how caller ID is read out. - Sometimes, too much customization can lead to confusion for users, especially as you first need to do research as to which phone to get, and which will provide what you're looking for, and which will provide the best accessibility experience. - Android lacks usable Braille support. - iOS is not as customizable with most things, though this is slowly changing, with iOS adopting widgets, a sort of app drawer, and more. But there is really only one iPhone *with two-three different sizes*, but the functionality is similar, the features are similar, the look is similar, etc. - iOS makes use of the rotor and multi-finger gestures much more so than Androidd. Until recently, iOS did not provide gesture customization, which Android has had for a long time. Android, on the other hand, has both multi-finger gestures, and the ability to use angle gestures, making for easier one-handed use (unless you customize your iOS gestures) but even then, angle gestures are not available. - iOS settings are too spread out, with some app settings being found in the app itself, and others require digging through settings. While you can search for a setting, it's still true that Android settings are much more streamlined. - iOS does not allow for installing 3rd-party TTS engines or screen readers. While it is true that Voiceover is good, it is also true that it is the only choice you have. - iOS makes it more difficult to be cross-platform. For example, if you wish to use Android, you can text from the web or from the your phone app in Windows. You can text on the web using any platform with a web browser. You can connect your device to your computer and transfer files or ringtones to it. You can even control your Android phone from your computer within Windows. You can receive your notifications on your Windows or Chromebook machine. Windows 11 will be allowing access to Android apps, and Chromebooks already support Android apps. With iOS, continuity is great only if you are also using other Apple products. - iOS does not allow for easy access to advanced functionality through the computer. As an example, if I wanted to, I could remove apps that are preinstalled on my device, enable TalkBack, install apps not from the play store, etc. etc. by using tools such as ADB. This may not matter to many, but it is still something I value. I have no doubt that I am missing some things, but the point is, both platforms are great, and both are painful. To the extent that one is better than the other will depend on your needs, what you care about and look for, your budget, etc. I am an Android user because I value flexibility, customization, device choice, etc. Both platforms are drifting closer together. Android is improving in accessibility, and iOS is improving in customization. Isn't that great? We can now, or will be soon, able to choose a platform based on things we care about, rather than its level of accessibility. Hope this helps. On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 1:25 AM Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my opinion iOS has better accessibility. I have used both platforms. > > > Dennis Long > Sent from my iPhone SE > > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:01 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you. I’m absolutely aware of the fact this is an IPhone users list, > having been on here for almost 10 years since I owned my first IPhone back > in 2011. I was only trying to see if anyone knew of any of the information > for which I was looking, so I could ultimately make my choice to go with > the IPhone or stay with Android and wait another four plus months to > upgrade to a later device. The articles I’ve found online simply don’t > answer the questions I had factually but instead, most of them are > opinion-based if not preference-based reportings of IPhone VS. Android. I > was truly hoping someone with the IPhone 13 Pro Max might be willing to > comment on the device’s performance which might have gone a bit further in > helping me make my decision. > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Loreal Lavigna > > General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist > > Phone: (518)330-5188 > > E-Mail: loreallavi...@gmail.com > > Website: Click here for Transcripts By Loreal > <http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal> > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2021 1:51 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra > > > > Your message came through, if you didn't receive a response it is most > likely because nobody felt they had the information you required. This is > an iPhone list after all and while I know a number of people also have > Android devices it is maybe not so likely somebody would drop $1,000 or > more on an iPhone and the same on the latest and greatest Android phone. I > think nowadays any of these high-end phones are very good and what is more > the technology in them is much more mature than even 6 years ago and in my > opinion you should probably decide which platform you feel more comfortable > with and especially since you had both Android phones and iPhones you > probably have a preference; I wouldn't worry too much about the hardware as > most regular users never come even close to exhausting the capabilities of > what the processors nowadays are capable of. Just my thoughts. > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Loreal Lavigna > *Sent:* October 28, 2021 7:30 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* FW: Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra > *Importance:* High > > > > I sent the following message to the list and have heard nothing in > response. Are my messages even going through to the list? I need > information as soon as possible, as I need a working phone, and the > problems I’m experiencing with my device are simply too extensive for me to > wait it out for another few months. > > > > *From:* Loreal Lavigna <loreallavi...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:54 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Apple IPhone 13 Pro Max VS. Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra > *Importance:* High > > > > Hello, > > > > I’ve been both an IPhone and Android user respectively over the past ten > years – first IPhone from November of 2011 to June of 2013, then again for > a brief period from June of 2014 through January of 2015; and Android first > from June of 2013 through June of 2014, then January of 2015 through to > present day. Most people who have known me during the last few years and > even earlier back into the late 2000’s with the late Windows Mobile devices > will recall I usually am one of the ones who does her research and helps > others out with their issues. Now though, it’s me who could use a little > help. > > > > I’m doing some research and don’t want to miss anything like I did six > years ago. I want to research the differences between the most high-end > IPhone 13 Pro Max and the Samsung Galaxy equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy S21 > Ultra 5G. Both are 5G capable devices, both come in the storage > capacities I’m interested in. Specifically I’m looking at the following: > > > > 1. Battery life: In looking at the two devices, I have found > several differing writeups on the internet claiming either of the devices > is better than the other, but not giving any real specifics from the > viewpoint of a user who uses accessibility features such as VoiceOver on > IOS and TalkBack on Android. I want to know which of these devices’ > batteries is more long-lasting with the use of the accessibility features > running. If anyone has information about the battery usage without the > accessibility features running as well, so much the better. I can make an > even better-informed decision at the end of the day. > > 2. RAM/Processor speed: I’m looking specifically at RAM/processor > speed and how fast each device measures up in a truly fair comparison. > Which of these devices will ultimately be able to be used and not lag too > much both with and/or without the accessibility features running? I’ve > also read differing opinions on this and with each of these devices being > named the truly better device. I’d like to see how much of what I’ve > discovered thus far is fact as opposed to fiction as opposed to simple > preference and opinion but not based on facts of device performance. > > 3. Storage: While internal capacity on both devices is equivalent > in so far as I can get, I believe, the capacity internally I want on each > of these two devices, I don’t believe there’s too much to compare here > since it is my understanding that the slot for the MicroSD Card on the > Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra and going forward is being or has finally truly > been done away with. I did do some research and so far have found some > differing opinions on this of whether the forthcoming Galaxy S22 Ultra will > or will not ultimately have the SD Card slot. Either way, it doesn’t make > too much a difference to me, as if I can get either of these devices in 512 > GB or even better the 1TB internal capacity, then I won’t have much need > for memory expansion. I already have cloud storage with both Apple and > Google, and can access my google cloud storage from Apple if the need > should arise and I run out of my ICloud storage (highly unlikely). > > > > Six years ago I got what I was told clearly by someone looking to make a > sale that the IPhone 5S was the equivalent to the Samsumg Galaxy S5 device > in every way, shape, and form. This was proven to be false, as I would > later find within three weeks of owning the IPhone 5S, the speed of the > device/reaction time was less than half that of the Samsung Galaxy S5. > Keep in mind, this was six years ago, and things in both camps have changed > significantly since then. > > > > I’m with T-Mobile now by default, as Sprint was bought out by them, and > eventually everything that hasn’t as of yet will be switched completely > over to T-Mobile. Ultimately, I’m looking to upgrade my phone for a couple > reasons. > > > > First, I’m buying my current Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G device outright > and will be giving it, temporarily, to my husband who needs a 5G device and > has zero trade-in value for his current device, the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 > Ultra. This happened because we weren’t given the option for him to opt in > and buy his phone outright, and he’s now only renting the phone since his > leas ended back in February. > > > > Second, ever since the buy-out of Sprint by T-Mobile, I’ve gone through > two sets of CIM Cards on both my and my husband’s phones, and we’re > experiencing issues with our current devices, his far worse than mine since > his CIM card is a 5G but his phone is not a 5G-capable phone. It is my > hope that by upgrading devices that perhaps the issues we’re experiencing > will become less and less if not cease altogether. > > > > Thank you in advance for any information anyone might have. > > > > Sincerely, > > Loreal Lavigna > > General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist > > Phone: (518)330-5188 > > E-Mail: loreallavi...@gmail.com > > Website: Click here for Transcripts By Loreal > <http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal> > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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