Alan,

I don't entirely agree here, I sometimes have found references to old iPhones 
of mine which I fully erased and sold in my Apple account where I had to remove 
them manually and I wonder if maybe signing out of iCloud is a way to prevent 
this from happening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: November 21, 2021 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

Hi Vicky,

If you've completely erased your phone as part of the reset process in 
preparation of selling it, their is no need to also sign out of iCloud. After a 
complete reset, the phone will be like a new device.

You can get to the power off button on the screen by holding down either the 
volume up or volume down buttons simultaneously with the side power button. 
When you do, a new screen appears with power off at the top, followed by 
Medical ID, Emergency SOS, and Cancel. If you test this, you will have to enter 
your passcode if you cancel out of it.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:31:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the way I am, what am I 
doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?

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