Sieghard, Wait...What, My phone after turning it off or the battery dies still sends out a location signal??? How is this possible? Is this feature within the IOS software? Or is it available on newer devices as a hardware chip or something? I've seen the setting for sending the devices last location before the device shuts off. The location of a device still being sent after being completely turned off is new info to me. Interesting...🤔
Donna > > Donna, I am sure what you are describing is correct, but I think this button > on the power off screen refers to the new feature where an iPhone's location > is still being sent even after the phone is powered off. This would mean if > somebody stole an iPhone even powering it off wouldn't prevent the phone's > location from being sent and updated on iCloud. Of course sophisticated > thieves could still find ways to deal with that by placing the phone in a > container which shields it and prevents signals from being sent, but it > certainly makes it yet harder. My criticism is not in the feature but in this > strangely labelled button on the lock screen and its meaning. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Donna > Casteen > Sent: November 21, 2021 4:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone > > Sieghard, the Find My feature that you came across is a feature in which the > phones last location is sent to Apple & any friends before the phone is > powered off or before the battery in the phone dies from the neglect to > charge the phone battery. The setting to turn this feature on/off is in > settings, but I can't recall if it is in battery, Find My, SOS or possibly > even some place else. > > Donna > >> >> When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, >> you are restarting it. >> If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can go >> to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap. >> This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew >> Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it >> because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency >> call buton. >> Anyways, if you simultaneously press and hold volume down and the side >> button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services >> would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking. >> I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I am >> on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to >> make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows: >> >> At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell >> signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that is where >> it says "Double Tap to the Power Off" button, for a sighted person it >> actually says "Slide to Power off" because instead of double tapping they do >> a left to right swipe. >> After this there is now something I realize I never heard before, it says >> literally the following "location.fill.radiowaves.left.and.right iPhone >> Findable After Power Off Forward" >> I tapped on that to see what it would do and the following message pops up >> on the screen: >> iPhone remains findable after power off. >> Find My helps you located this iPhone when it is lost or stolen even after >> power off. >> The location is visible in Find My on your other devices and to people in >> family sharing you share location with. >> You can temporarily turn off Find My network and it will resume when this >> iPhone is powered on again. >> Then there is an OK button. >> What I don't know is whether tapping on this turns off the Find My after >> power off because the only thing you can do when you see the above message >> is tap the OK button and this takes you right back to the same Power Off >> screen, but this weird sounding and not very descriptive button is not read >> any differently by Voiceover. I will write to Apple Accessibility and ask >> for clarification regarding this. >> OK, back to the Power Off screen description: >> >> If you swipe right again you now come to the "Medical Id" button >> Another swipe right takes you to the "Emergency Call" button If you >> explore the screen instead of swiping right you will find that there is a >> bit of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are pretty >> much right in the middle of the screen. >> >> Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a >> "Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will >> again close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before. >> That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the >> screen. >> All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, >> i.e. you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down >> and find them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or >> in the middle. >> >> You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently >> call emergency services if you press the side button too many times >> repeatedly, just pressing and holding a volume button and the side button >> won't do that if you are careful not to double tap afterwards without making >> sure you are not on the emergency call button. >> >> >> Best regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Vicky Collins >> Sent: November 21, 2021 6:31 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone >> >> First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever >> an old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of >> iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of >> iCloud, anyway? >> >> Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I >> know Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side >> button for a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've >> always pressed the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down >> button and released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I >> have gotten the dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these >> instructions for force restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the >> side button quite a bit longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off >> the way I am, what am I doing, and does it harm the phone in any way? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> [email protected]. 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