I  had this problem when I upgraded my SE20. At first I thought the upgrade was fine until I  deleted a few  e  mails and the phone crashed.

I had the same problem, no way could I  get the phone to speak at boot up, eventually I had to get sighted help to input the pass code and start Voiceover the long way.

I  had a look through settings and noticed that the accessibility shortcut was turned off, which it most certainly wasn't before the upgrade.

I  went into the shortcut settings, moved Voiceover up to the top, probably not necessary but I wasn't taking chances and swiped down to activate double tapped and exited settings.

I  rebooted my phone knowing/hoping that at least the triple click on the home button should get me running if Voiceover didn't start, but to my surprise Voiceover came back up as the phone re-started.

I  would suggest that anyone who has experienced this problem double check their settings just in case.


Gary

On 21/09/2022 20:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Have you tried what was suggested, forgot who posted it, and that is to delete 
and reinstall whatever voice you are using as your primary Voiceover voice?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

In my case, the forced restart just brought me back to the screen where I would 
enter the passcode, and there was still no speech.

I lost speech upon boot up again tonight, but managed to luck into entering my 
passcode correctly after being locked out for the 15 minutes. When I called 
Apple Accessibility, the person I spoke with, had not heard of the bug, but he 
did take my name and file a report. When I mentioned about sending some type of 
logs to Apple, he said that was for a specific issue and not one that was 
happening to several people, as I had mentioned that some people on various 
blindness related email lists also had the problem.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:

I have yet to upgrade, so I can't testth  this myself. But when in the 
situation where VoiceOver won't talk after a reboot, what happens if you do a 
forced restart, and, as it were, start over? If possible, I would connect to 
power to restart after the forced restart. If this won't work, then there 
really is a problem.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:

It's not Speech that gets turned off, but Voiceover, so that is a whole 
different animal, as far as gestures are concerned.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

Interesting. Tell him to get screen recognition out of his rotor. Screen 
recognition, thankfully, now has different clicks, to show a user they're in 
that mode.

Devin Prater
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:17 AM Arnold Schmidt <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:


   I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as 
described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver 
would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor 
doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard 
when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had been 
turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code before it 
would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he tried would get 
it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it out there for others 
to test. He said that he had had no problem with IOS 16, until this incident.

   Arnold Schmidt


   Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

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