I looked in Shortcuts and in Accessibility and am not finding Accessibiity Shortcuts.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicky Collins Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 4:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot That was a good thought, but in my case, when I checked, the accessibility shortcut was indeed on, and did not work at the boot tup until the passcode had been entered. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2022, at 3:51 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I had this problem when I upgraded my SE20. At first I thought the upgrade > was fine until I deleted a few e mails and the phone crashed. > > I had the same problem, no way could I get the phone to speak at boot up, > eventually I had to get sighted help to input the pass code and start > Voiceover the long way. > > I had a look through settings and noticed that the accessibility shortcut > was turned off, which it most certainly wasn't before the upgrade. > > I went into the shortcut settings, moved Voiceover up to the top, probably > not necessary but I wasn't taking chances and swiped down to activate double > tapped and exited settings. > > I rebooted my phone knowing/hoping that at least the triple click on the > home button should get me running if Voiceover didn't start, but to my > surprise Voiceover came back up as the phone re-started. > > I would suggest that anyone who has experienced this problem double check > their settings just in case. > > > Gary > >> On 21/09/2022 20:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Have you tried what was suggested, forgot who posted it, and that is to >> delete and reinstall whatever voice you are using as your primary Voiceover >> voice? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Vicky >> Collins >> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:17 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >> >> In my case, the forced restart just brought me back to the screen where I >> would enter the passcode, and there was still no speech. >> >> I lost speech upon boot up again tonight, but managed to luck into entering >> my passcode correctly after being locked out for the 15 minutes. When I >> called Apple Accessibility, the person I spoke with, had not heard of the >> bug, but he did take my name and file a report. When I mentioned about >> sending some type of logs to Apple, he said that was for a specific issue >> and not one that was happening to several people, as I had mentioned that >> some people on various blindness related email lists also had the problem. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have yet to upgrade, so I can't testth this myself. But when in the >>> situation where VoiceOver won't talk after a reboot, what happens if you do >>> a forced restart, and, as it were, start over? If possible, I would connect >>> to power to restart after the forced restart. If this won't work, then >>> there really is a problem. >>> >>> Arnold Schmidt >>> >>> >>> Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >>> >>> It's not Speech that gets turned off, but Voiceover, so that is a whole >>> different animal, as far as gestures are concerned. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Devin Prater >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 4:01 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot >>> >>> Interesting. Tell him to get screen recognition out of his rotor. Screen >>> recognition, thankfully, now has different clicks, to show a user they're >>> in that mode. >>> >>> Devin Prater >>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:17 AM Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:als5...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as >>> described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver >>> would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor >>> doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard >>> when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had >>> been turned off. He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code >>> before it would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he >>> tried would get it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it >>> out there for others to test. 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