Thanks, Rick, this was a kind of reply I found helpful.


Carol P
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On 12 Dec 2012, at 04:48 PM, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Carol.
> 
> I have a WiFi only Mini and haven't missed anything because I also have an 
> iPhone 4s.  If I didn't have my 4s, I would miss the cellular aspect for 
> sure.  Personally, I use the Mini more as a consumption device around the 
> house, meaning books, pod casts, some email and some browsing and I love it 
> in that context.  I would never give up my iPhone however for maximum 
> portability no matter where I go with it.  Just my thoughts.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rick alfaro
> 
> On 12/12/2012 4:23 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:
>> Following on this thread, I'm about to receive my iPad mini for Christmas! I 
>> have a final choice as to which Model want. I am still torn between having 
>> one with  cellular data data connection or without. I wonder if those of you 
>> who have iPads have any comments about this whether you have missed it 
>> because you haven't had it will because you are glad you have bought a 
>> cheaper model without it. In addition, it would help me to understand 
>> whether or not, should I decide to buy the  more expensive model to include 
>> cellular data, whether I have to have a card installed from my carrier 
>> before I can actually use the iPad I ask this because I couldn't finish the 
>> iPhone setup without first having a card installed. I don't want to run into 
>> the same problem.
>> 
>> Any help you can give will be most appreciated. Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 12 Dec 2012, at 03:09 AM, "Tina Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Joe, I don't have an IPad that has the cell connections, but maybe you
>>> could think of returning the IPad you received to upgrade it for one
>>> that can connect to your carrier.
>>> Tina
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action.
>>> -- 1 John 3:18
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: iPad Hater
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kevin,
>>> 
>>> Give me a little credit bro. I knew the obvious differences between
>>> the iPad and iPhone, but having heard so much about iPad specific
>>> apps, better processor, etc. I guess I was a little optimistic. I
>>> think I would be better served by going for the iPhone 5, but I would
>>> only feel good about that if the upgrade is significantly better than
>>> my iPhone 4S. Then I start thinking I could just wait until next year
>>> to get the 5S or whatever they're calling it. Decisions, decisions,
>>> but that's what you get when you're trying to stay productive on the
>>> road. At the very least I was hoping Dropbox would be accessible
>>> off-line since that's doable on notebooks.--Joe
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Kevin Barry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I love my iPad 4 which I bought to replace an iPad 2 which has moved
>>>> on to a new owner.
>>>> My point was that an iPad and iPhone are both great but are
>>>> different and will not perform all the same functions equally and I
>>>> would  have thought that more obvious.
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> At 08:51 PM 12/11/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> All sarcasm aside, I do believe that both iPad and iPhone have
>>>>> their place and will be useful to some and not as much to others. I
>>>>> think it highly depends on the needs of the user. It's already been
>>>>> discussed much on the list the differences between iPad and iPhone
>>>>> and why one chooses one over the other. Personally I'm fine without
>>>>> the iPad and perfectly happy with the iPhone, but someone like my
>>>>> wife and daughter would really enjoy the iPad for the kinds of
>>>>> things you can do on it VS the iPhone. For example, my daughter is
>>>>> sighted and an avid reader. Reading books on her iPhone is not as
>>>>> fun as it is on the iPad because of the text size and because of
>>>>> more scrolling which is done from the iPhone, but the iPad is
>>>>> perfect for her socialization, email, and book reading needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I imagine that eventually the girls in my life will convince me
>>>>> to get one or both of them an iPad. Until then, scroll scroll
>>>>> scroll from the iPhone. I keep telling them to just use Nook and
>>>>> Voice Over and let it do all the work. Or better yet, Audible
>>>>> books. But no one listens to me. <smile>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>> "I used to sell furniture for a living. The trouble was, it was my
>>>>> own." - Les Dawson
>>>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>>>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/11/2012 8:44 PM, Kevin Barry wrote:
>>>>>> Why on earth would you think a  device without cellular
>>>>>> connectivity and
>>>>>> that has a ten inch screen would be useful as a commuter device?
>>>>>> There is this new thing out; called an iPhone I beleive.
>>>>>> Try that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 08:21 PM 12/11/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I'm not really an iPad hater. Still, made you think, didn't
>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyway, I got an iPad 4th gen as a surprise. Honestly, I don't
>>>>>>> get it.
>>>>>>> It's the oversized iPhone I feared. The single best feature I can
>>>>>>> point to is the four-finger swipe to switch between apps.
>>>>>>> Otherwise,
>>>>>>> without 3G access, I can't access Dropbox outside of wireless
>>>>>>> range.
>>>>>>> Only one of my text editors will give me some access to the
>>>>>>> Dropbox
>>>>>>> file structure, but overall this doesn't work as the commuter
>>>>>>> tool I
>>>>>>> was hoping for.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Where am I going wrong? Are there apps that let you read Dropbox
>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>> outside of wireless range, or is 3G really needed to make this a
>>>>>>> viable commuter device? I'm thinking I'd be better off upgrading
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the iPhone 5 for the faster processor and 4G connections, but
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> selling off this unit, I want to make sure I'm giving it a fair
>>>>>>> shake.
>>>>>>> Right now it just feels like one big ass screen that feels more
>>>>>>> awkward than useful. Even the greater web page range is not
>>>>>>> enough to
>>>>>>> make me admire the extra screen real estate.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>> 
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