Yes, I love the google voice inter gratin. I miss it badly! I bought the 5 on launch day, and regret it. I thought there would be more of a difference, but at this point, besides being a little taller, possibly a little faster depending on what you do, it's really nothing to jump up and down about. My wife is still on ios 5.1.1 with her 4s, and I'm seriously thinking about trading with her so I can have my googlevoice integration back. I really miss my SBS settings, loving to tap the status bar to switch wifi on and off, among a lot of other things. JMO On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:14 AM, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, I think that what you and I agree regardless of our personal views on > jailbreaking, is that jailbreaking works for some, but is not for everyone. > If I felt that my iPhone met my needs then I would not jailbreak either for > the same reasons you stated. In fact, I don't even recommend jailbreaking to > my customers I train on using the iPhone unless they ask about it first. And > even then, I will explain what jailbreaking is, but give both sides of the > coin in how cool it can be, but also how frustrating it can be and the > problems it can cause. I will admit, and you can point the "told you so > finger at me", that my iPhone has locked up more than the other iPhones in my > family circle, and when it does, some people around here just raise their > eyebrows and sigh at me. I've considered just upgrading iOS to the latest and > using it non-jailbroken. This of course would mean that I would lose much of > my beloved tweaks, like the ability to swipe left or right across the screen > of any app to move the music forward and/backward, swipe from top to bottom > in any app to play/pause the music, triple-tap the left side of the status > bar to toggle air plane mode, and of course, my wonderful Star Trek sounds > and background. Believe it or not, I can live with that loss. However what > really stops me from moving forward with upgrading and using the iPhone > non-jailbroken is the integration of Google Voice. I truly feel that has been > the most I've gotten out of jailbreaking. I use my GV number as my primary > contact number for calls and texts and jailbreaking allows me to use GV > natively from my iPhone no matter which app I'm in. Yes it's true that the > Google Voice apps, and a few others out there like GV Connect and GV Mobile > Plus are excellent ones to use, but they still don't integrate fully into > iOS. This is a similar thing to how keyboards like Fleksy can't integrate > directly for those who wish it could. I totally understand the reason why > Apple jails their apps, but I don't have to agree with it. Yes, you can point > out that I myself have admitted to my phone locking up more, so why would I > choose this action knowing the phone will be less stable. To that I can only > say that the occasional lock up I have with my phone is less of an annoyance > than not having integrated Google Voice, and the other tweaks I've gotten > used to. > > Oh, and if we debate in person and if you lose, just toss me your > non-jailbroken iPhone. <grin>. > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've > experienced pain and bought jewelry. - Rita Rudner > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 > > On 1/10/2013 4:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hello Raul, >> >> Let's see, if we do a Jailbreak debate let's try and meet up sometime so we >> can do it in person and at least I can resort to just beating you up if I >> loose *smile* >> >> But joking aside, I completely agree with you which is why I said your phone >> "can" become less stabil and jailbreak apps "can contain" poorly written >> code. I completely understand that this is not necessarily the case and >> always hear Rob from Today in iOS advise that one should always >> remove/delete jailbreak apps one doesn't use in order to avoid running into >> conflicts. I think, however, for some jailbreaking may be a temptation to >> put so many apps on the phone that you lose track of which might be causing >> a problem. You are probably correct in saying that if you are careful that >> you can minimize the risk and maximize the benefits. Maybe I have to try it >> one of these days, but then again, maybe I don't since my iPhone does >> everything I want it do to and I totally don't mind syncing my music with >> iTunes. I have a 64 Gb phone and about 25 Gb of music ripped at 256 Kbps so >> for me that part is easy, I check the "Sync All Music" and it's a one-time >> process. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Raul A. Gallegos >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:41 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate >> >> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because he >> is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows what he >> is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the view on >> jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's points are very >> much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the jailbreak app store), >> are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit more careful about what you >> get, but as long as you know what you install, and as long as you remove >> something that causes lock ups after installing it so you don't forget what >> did it in the first place, then jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To >> give an example, I'm still running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not >> just because the untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also >> because most of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already >> available to me in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At >> this point I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are >> the Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and >> daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps >> programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze GPS, >> together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if it was a >> usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them. >> I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied to a >> single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can theme my >> phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google Voice fully >> integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone number. >> >> I hope this other viewpoint helps. >> >> PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and you >> can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the opposite. >> <smile>. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. - >> Rodney Dangerfield Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 >> >> On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hi Mohammed, >>> >>> I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil >>> and since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain >>> harmful code (a huge problem with Android apps where there is very >>> little control from >>> Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a >>> safer user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion >>> about how Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a >>> Jailbreaker and think that is so then that's good for you, but while I >>> am an experienced tech user it's not for me. >>> >>> I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced >>> Jailbreakers as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you >>> upgraded to iOS 6 you are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet >>> which means even if you find a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in >>> your phone to the computer should it crash or should you want to >>> reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without having it plugged in, it >>> would not work. I am sure there will be an untethered Jailbreak coming up, >> but it's not here yet. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Mohammed abbas Rashid >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:59 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Key Vibrate >>> >>> Hi Sieghard >>> >>> Many thanks for your email. >>> >>> I very much appreciate all information given by your goodself. >>> >>> How is a phone jale broken? >>> >>> Once again look forward to hearing. >>> >>> Many thanks and kind regards >>> Mohammed Rashid >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: 09 January 2013 16:47 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Key Vibrate >>> >>> Hi Mohammed, >>> >>> Although there are currently no applications in the App Store which >>> will make your iPhone vibrate as you type on the keyboard, there are a >>> few options available for iPhone users who have done a successful >>> jailbreak on their phones. After a jailbreak, you'll have access to >>> the Cydia application store on your device -- a store of non-Apple >>> approved applications that many users find very useful for enhancing >>> their phone's functionality. In the Cydia store, you will find >>> multiple applications for making your iPhone vibrate as you type, a >> feature known as haptic feedback. >>> >>> Where did you hear about this app? Was it Applevis? When I did the >>> google search for "Key Vibrate App" the Applevis link to that app came >>> up as well, but it states also that it is a Jailbreak app. >>> >>> Lastly, just as a general comment, keep in mind that if you hear about >>> a particular app you may not find it in your country's App Store as >>> not all apps are available in all countries. I am not sure where you >>> live, but if you are looking for a particular app and can't find it at >>> all it's always a good idea to do a google search for that app or >>> simply ask google "In which countries is the so and so app available". >>> Chances are you will find the information. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Mohammed abbas Rashid >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 5:55 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Key Vibrate >>> >>> Hi. It is my first posting to this list and I just wanted to ask if >>> someone could please tell me where I can find the Key Vibrate app seen >>> on the Apple Vis website as I have tried to search for it on app >>> store,but couldn't find anything. >>> >>> Any help would be very much appreciated. >>> >>> Many thanks and kind regards >>> Mohammed Rashid >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne >>> Sent: 09 January 2013 13:45 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader >>> >>> Thanks, I'll give it another try. I'l try one on ibooks. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Aman Singer >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:24 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader >>> >>> Hello. >>> I do not have a stream, but have converted quite a few books from mobi >>> to epub using ebook-convert and read those books in iBooks. I have >>> found that the author and title fields are maintained, at least for >> iBooks. >>> It may well be that they were malformed on the Mobi, that the Stream >>> doesn't read them properly, or that ebook-convert is doing something >>> strange and out of standard which is effecting the title/author fields >>> for the stream. All I can say is that iBooks seems to have no issue with >> these fields. >>> HTH. >>> Aman >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:42 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader >>> >>> When you do this conversion, does it transfer the book title and author? >>> I've run across some epub books that have been converted this way. On >>> my stream it won't speak the book title or author when I move across >>> the bookshelf. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Aman Singer >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 6:37 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader >>> >>> Hi. >>> Though I agree that Calibre is an excellent book manager, its GUI is >>> not accessible to any screen reader. However, it can be used to >>> convert books from mobi to epub through the command line, which is >>> accessible. See http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/cli/ebook-convert.html >>> for instructions. I have a Pithon script which, when a mobi file is >>> clicked, will convert the file to Epub and put it in a temporary >>> directory. If anyone wants this, let me know. >>> Aman >>> >>> On 1/8/13, Winston Chen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I don't have any plans to support mobi at the moment. You can use >>>> Calibre to manage and convert all your eBook file formats. Calibre is >>>> free and a good piece of software. >>>> >>>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: >>>> >>>> Will this app support reading books in the mobi format? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Winston Chen >>>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:27 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader >>>> >>>> I'm going to do this (speaking and spelling the selected word) in the >>>> next two releases. >>>> Winston. >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you also going to make it possible for VoiceOver users to know >>>> what the text is that we are touching? That would help for the >>>> definition function, etc. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Winston Chen >>>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:21 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader >>>> >>>> It is possible to set a bookmark with VO on, but it's a little clunky >>>> right now. You need to press the text area and hold for a second. And >>>> then you'll have the option to Define, Bookmark and Highlight. A >>>> bookmark is always set at the beginning of the paragraph you'll on. A >>>> highlight is set on the sentence. So even it is imprecise because >>>> you'll see the exact Word you're pressing, in the end it'll be close >>>> enough. Once you set a bookmark, you can go back to it using the >>>> Bookmark menu, which lets you navigate to a autogenerated chapter, >>>> bookmark, or highlight. >>>> >>>> I'm going to add a "Bookmark" button in the next release so you can >>>> set a Bookmark at the speech cursor without having to invoke the >>>> context menu by long press. >>>> >>>> Winston. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Timothy Emmons wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Winston, I figured you had gotten it but were busy with other >>>> things so it's cool. Glad to know that a lot of folks are using it, I >>>> have found the bookmarks chapter marks and such very usable for >>>> navigation and have used this since I have gotten it more than >>>> read2go because it does recognize more formats, and has more voices >>>> with everything. Keep up the great work and I hope to see some great >>>> things from you guys in the future. I noticec the textbox and that is >> handy. >>>> The only thing is, how does one set bookmarks in a particular book, >>>> or is it possible with voiceover yet. I can get to all the bookmarks >>>> that are automatically generated but didn't know if I could set my >>>> own. I haven't explored the chapter marks yet and was wondering if >>>> that is a separate setting or how that works, but I use a lot of the >>>> automatically generated bookmarks to navigate with now which is nice. >>>> Anyway, thanks again for getting back to me, and keep up the great work. >>>> I'm >>>> recommending it to not only blind and visually impaired patrons of >>>> mine since I work for the Library for the Blind here in Alabama, but >>>> I am also recommending it to students with learning disabilities that >>>> are on bookshare and even if they're not to use the app because of >>>> all it does provide for the price especially. I'm hooked and hope to >>>> see more great updates and features as you can. Thanks for a great >>>> product and keep up the great work. >>>> Take care and talk to you soon. >>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Voice Dream Winston wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Yes I did get your email. I'm thinking through text navigation of >>>>> the text >>>> area right now. I don't want to rush to a solution yet. I can't just >>>> turn on VO support because I built the text box myself in order to >>>> handle very large text. >>>>> >>>>> Quite a few blind users are using my app happily now, using a >>>>> combination >>>> of chapter marks, bookmarks, text search, and manual scrolling. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Winston. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Winston. Thanks for monitoring this list. Have you received >>>> feedback that I've sent regarding VoiceOver support issues? I sent >>>> feedback via the contact option within your app. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rick alfaro >>>>> >>>>> On 1/5/2013 10:53 PM, Winston wrote: >>>>>> Hi, I'm the developer of Voice Dream Reader. In the next version >>>>>> you'll be able to download voices on 3G. Thanks for being a >>>>>> customer and sorry for the inconvenience. Winston. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:29:44 AM UTC-5, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>> I have purchased a few voices in the app but it asks me to use ViFi >>>>>> which I don't have. I can connect my Iphone 4S to my laptop and >>>>>> connect to the internet. Using Itunes can I download these voices? >>>>>> If so how? 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