Hi Krister,

Considering how relatively little Navigon has done so far I wouldn't hold my
breath. Yes, the app is pretty accessible, but there is a difference between
whether I can use it and whether it has the features I want or need.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013
Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

Hi,
Then it will be interesting to see what Navigon is going to offer in the
future that will benefit the blind. If they offer something that is as good
or nearly as good as the Sendero thing,then at least for me, the choise is
clear.
/Krister
27 feb 2013 kl. 14:14 skrev "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>:

> On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher
than the price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked
how much they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair
arrangement. There was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that
this is difficult to manage through the app store, so there will be just one
price.
>  
> Andy]
>  
> From: Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013
Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
> The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is
this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the
braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember
that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from
$25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do
know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will
definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this
because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more
than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look
through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app,
blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy
readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some
people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support
the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them.
And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a
purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question
I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps
which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and
looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps
light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't
intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone,
including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will
have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our
personal needs and the features contained in the app.
>  
> Cheers!
> 
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the
best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as
POI's from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good
and up-to-date map and POI information.
>>  
>> Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will
most likely make some others redundant.
>>  
>> I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the
project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may
think.
>>  
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM
>> To: ViPone list
>> Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013
Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!
>>  
>> I wasn't  sure if this had been seen on this list: 
>> From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org
[mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM
>> To: 'Kim Casey'
>> Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero
products, and remote CSUN access!
>>  
>> Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20
years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all
Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the
beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully
accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit
us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for
a Test Flight as soon as it is available.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> About Seeing Eye GPS
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a
guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two
pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to
provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal
navigation features plus features unique to blind users.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation
elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location.
>> 
>> * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are
announced.
>> 
>> * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation
of the streets.
>> 
>> * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources.
>> 
>> * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle
routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication,
continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. 
>> 
>> * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated
and updated turn information is announced.
>> 
>> * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the
LookAround Wand.
>> 
>> * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically
announced.
>> 
>> For more information go to
http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> New 2013 Sendero products
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps
and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks.
>> 
>> New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo
plus much faster POI searches
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Not going to CSUN - No problem!
>>  
>> Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun
and listen into the following presentations. 
>> February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People
Finder App
>> 
>> March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App
>> 
>> Just go to:
http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2 at the
scheduled session time.  If you are a first-time user of the Talking
Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe
software program that you need to download and then run. Visit
http://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-page for information on how to get
your      computer set up for the session.
>> 
>>  
>> For more information on all of these items, go to
http://www.SenderoGroup.com or call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810
>> 
>> Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear
play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out!
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