I have tried "On with Headings" but the information is still not very consistent, also the threshhold for change of direction seems to be very low so that headings are announced almost constantly with the slightest change.. I'll do some more testing and report back. Maybe I simply have to get used to the way the information is presented.
Grant On 2013-03-02, at 9:21 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > If you Change tracking on to tracking with headings by double tapping the > button again, VO reads the info consistently. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 03/03/2013, at 17:39, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The reasons I do not rely on Apple Maps are twofold: firstly, I find >> that while tracking information can be spoken by VoiceOver >> automatically, it's somewhat inconsistent in comparison to other apps. >> An example of a publically available app which for me tracks more >> reliably is BlindSquare. I also admire the fact that you can explore >> the map with VoiceOver, but find that it's very difficult to use this >> in practice particularly as holding your finger on a street for longer >> than a split second will change the zoom settings since VO thinks you >> want to follow that street. >> >> Grant >> >> On 3/2/13, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The Apple Maps data has been almost completely corrected since Apple's >>> introduction of Apple Maps. Unless you have tried it recently, you are going >>> on very old data. The errors were in the back-end, not on the iPhone, so >>> Apple was able to fix, and continues to improve Apple Maps. Also, Apple Maps >>> is using the same maps which TomTom uses. In my experience around NZ and in >>> parts of Australia, Apple Maps works quite well. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 03/03/2013, at 13:23, "Richard Turner" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of David Chittenden >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >>>> >>>> Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be >>>> providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about >>>> everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn >>>> directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) >>>> or >>>> online maps (Apple Maps). Both apps even can give my current address >>>> (which >>>> is now automatically announced in Apple Maps (when set to Tracking On >>>> with >>>> Headings). I have stopped using Ariadne, for the most part, because Apple >>>> Maps finally does it all, including giving me an accessible onscreen map >>>> (Tracking On (without headings). >>>> >>>> And, even better, Local Scope accesses automatically several internet POI >>>> listings and consolidates them for me. It is the only POI system that >>>> accesses all my local bus stop locations. Even better, VO accesses Local >>>> Scopes map view, if turned on, the same way and to the same degree, that >>>> it >>>> accesses Apple Maps graphical maps. >>>> >>>> The best thing, my total, one-time charge (given that TomTom and >>>> Navigon >>>> are both more expensive here in NZ) is $70 to $80. I do not remember >>>> what, >>>> if anything, I paid for Local Scope. Where To, the other POI app I like >>>> cost >>>> me $1.99, and provides many more POIs than I got from Look Around when I >>>> was >>>> visiting the US. Finally, all the apps I use work perfectly well in NZ. >>>> >>>> It must be noted that Navigon and TomTom must be purchased separately for >>>> each country or region. >>>> >>>> My point here is I am paying significantly less for equivalent service. I >>>> am >>>> not getting clock-face directions, but with practice, I have something >>>> better, an audio graphical map view interface which shows me the >>>> information >>>> via haptics (touch) and audio. >>>> >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 03/03/2013, at 11:47, Keith Watson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John, >>>>> >>>>> Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to >>>> upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become >>>> available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to >>>> work >>>> the way it was sold to you. >>>>> >>>>> Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app >>>>> called >>>> Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time >>>> goes >>>> by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the >>>> interim >>>> I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has taken >>>> my >>>> house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to find my >>>> way >>>> to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 in order >>>> for >>>> me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years and now >>>> its >>>> useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I would go so >>>> far >>>> as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a price for >>>> something I damned well want to own it. >>>>> >>>>> I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they >>>> are going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It >>>> will >>>> work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so >>>> drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better >>>> comes >>>> along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs. >>>>> >>>>> Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn >>>>> those >>>> of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. 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