I agree with this. The only thing I have really found Apple maps to have going for it is good VO accessibility and that is definitely great. However, it is great accessibility to something that for POI information at least is next to useless. I live a stones throw or on a good day less than a 12 minute drive from downtown Portland OR, but Apple Maps finds nearly nothing when I check what POIs are near me at my apartment. There are tons of coffee shops and eating places of a nuber of sorts, some grocery stores and all of them have been around a while. Apple maps finds a school that is nearby. That's it. IT knows nothing else exists. I have not gone so far as to try it yet, but I guess if another app that is worth something in finding things feeds Apple Maps the address then Apple Maps might be useful for navigation. Google maps, the new on the app store application, not the previously available one, has a more difficult interface to get around, but will tell you about just about anything if searching for some POI. I would find it useful if some day Apple Maps knows about things.
On 3/2/13, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. > > Richard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN > > Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be > providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about > everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn > directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) or > online maps (Apple Maps). Both apps even can give my current address (which > is now automatically announced in Apple Maps (when set to Tracking On with > Headings). I have stopped using Ariadne, for the most part, because Apple > Maps finally does it all, including giving me an accessible onscreen map > (Tracking On (without headings). > > And, even better, Local Scope accesses automatically several internet POI > listings and consolidates them for me. It is the only POI system that > accesses all my local bus stop locations. Even better, VO accesses Local > Scopes map view, if turned on, the same way and to the same degree, that it > accesses Apple Maps graphical maps. > > The best thing, my total, one-time charge (given that TomTom and Navigon > are both more expensive here in NZ) is $70 to $80. I do not remember what, > if anything, I paid for Local Scope. Where To, the other POI app I like > cost > me $1.99, and provides many more POIs than I got from Look Around when I > was > visiting the US. Finally, all the apps I use work perfectly well in NZ. > > It must be noted that Navigon and TomTom must be purchased separately for > each country or region. > > My point here is I am paying significantly less for equivalent service. I > am > not getting clock-face directions, but with practice, I have something > better, an audio graphical map view interface which shows me the > information > via haptics (touch) and audio. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 03/03/2013, at 11:47, Keith Watson <lnx...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> John, >> >> Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to > upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become > available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to work > the way it was sold to you. >> >> Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app called > Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time goes > by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the > interim > I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has taken my > house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to find my way > to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 in order for > me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years and now its > useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I would go so > far > as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a price for > something I damned well want to own it. >> >> I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they > are going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It will > work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so > drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better comes > along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs. >> >> Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn those > of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. I guess I > am just a bit more frugal than most. >> >> Keith >> >> On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:21 PM, john gallagher <j...@pianotuner.plus.com> > wrote: >> >>> hi there keith interesting but say on my sendero on the apex because the > maps are actually on the machine even though they will not get updated they > will still work and yes cost is important for blind people as we have to > pay > much more for our devices and of course the software. am i correct in > saying that with navigon there updates are free. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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