The reasons I do not rely on Apple Maps are twofold: firstly, I find that while tracking information can be spoken by VoiceOver automatically, it's somewhat inconsistent in comparison to other apps. An example of a publically available app which for me tracks more reliably is BlindSquare. I also admire the fact that you can explore the map with VoiceOver, but find that it's very difficult to use this in practice particularly as holding your finger on a street for longer than a split second will change the zoom settings since VO thinks you want to follow that street.
Grant On 3/2/13, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Apple Maps data has been almost completely corrected since Apple's > introduction of Apple Maps. Unless you have tried it recently, you are going > on very old data. The errors were in the back-end, not on the iPhone, so > Apple was able to fix, and continues to improve Apple Maps. Also, Apple Maps > is using the same maps which TomTom uses. In my experience around NZ and in > parts of Australia, Apple Maps works quite well. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 03/03/2013, at 13:23, "Richard Turner" <richard.turne...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. >> >> Richard >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of David Chittenden >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >> >> Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be >> providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about >> everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn >> directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) >> or >> online maps (Apple Maps). Both apps even can give my current address >> (which >> is now automatically announced in Apple Maps (when set to Tracking On >> with >> Headings). I have stopped using Ariadne, for the most part, because Apple >> Maps finally does it all, including giving me an accessible onscreen map >> (Tracking On (without headings). >> >> And, even better, Local Scope accesses automatically several internet POI >> listings and consolidates them for me. It is the only POI system that >> accesses all my local bus stop locations. Even better, VO accesses Local >> Scopes map view, if turned on, the same way and to the same degree, that >> it >> accesses Apple Maps graphical maps. >> >> The best thing, my total, one-time charge (given that TomTom and >> Navigon >> are both more expensive here in NZ) is $70 to $80. I do not remember >> what, >> if anything, I paid for Local Scope. Where To, the other POI app I like >> cost >> me $1.99, and provides many more POIs than I got from Look Around when I >> was >> visiting the US. Finally, all the apps I use work perfectly well in NZ. >> >> It must be noted that Navigon and TomTom must be purchased separately for >> each country or region. >> >> My point here is I am paying significantly less for equivalent service. I >> am >> not getting clock-face directions, but with practice, I have something >> better, an audio graphical map view interface which shows me the >> information >> via haptics (touch) and audio. >> >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 03/03/2013, at 11:47, Keith Watson <lnx...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> John, >>> >>> Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to >> upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become >> available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to >> work >> the way it was sold to you. >>> >>> Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app >>> called >> Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time >> goes >> by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the >> interim >> I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has taken >> my >> house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to find my >> way >> to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 in order >> for >> me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years and now >> its >> useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I would go so >> far >> as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a price for >> something I damned well want to own it. >>> >>> I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they >> are going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It >> will >> work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so >> drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better >> comes >> along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs. >>> >>> Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn >>> those >> of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. 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