If you Change tracking on to tracking with headings by double tapping the button again, VO reads the info consistently.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 03/03/2013, at 17:39, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > The reasons I do not rely on Apple Maps are twofold: firstly, I find > that while tracking information can be spoken by VoiceOver > automatically, it's somewhat inconsistent in comparison to other apps. > An example of a publically available app which for me tracks more > reliably is BlindSquare. I also admire the fact that you can explore > the map with VoiceOver, but find that it's very difficult to use this > in practice particularly as holding your finger on a street for longer > than a split second will change the zoom settings since VO thinks you > want to follow that street. > > Grant > > On 3/2/13, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >> The Apple Maps data has been almost completely corrected since Apple's >> introduction of Apple Maps. Unless you have tried it recently, you are going >> on very old data. The errors were in the back-end, not on the iPhone, so >> Apple was able to fix, and continues to improve Apple Maps. Also, Apple Maps >> is using the same maps which TomTom uses. In my experience around NZ and in >> parts of Australia, Apple Maps works quite well. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 03/03/2013, at 13:23, "Richard Turner" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of David Chittenden >>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:24 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN >>> >>> Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be >>> providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about >>> everything I need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn >>> directions, automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) >>> or >>> online maps (Apple Maps). Both apps even can give my current address >>> (which >>> is now automatically announced in Apple Maps (when set to Tracking On >>> with >>> Headings). I have stopped using Ariadne, for the most part, because Apple >>> Maps finally does it all, including giving me an accessible onscreen map >>> (Tracking On (without headings). >>> >>> And, even better, Local Scope accesses automatically several internet POI >>> listings and consolidates them for me. It is the only POI system that >>> accesses all my local bus stop locations. Even better, VO accesses Local >>> Scopes map view, if turned on, the same way and to the same degree, that >>> it >>> accesses Apple Maps graphical maps. >>> >>> The best thing, my total, one-time charge (given that TomTom and >>> Navigon >>> are both more expensive here in NZ) is $70 to $80. I do not remember >>> what, >>> if anything, I paid for Local Scope. Where To, the other POI app I like >>> cost >>> me $1.99, and provides many more POIs than I got from Look Around when I >>> was >>> visiting the US. Finally, all the apps I use work perfectly well in NZ. >>> >>> It must be noted that Navigon and TomTom must be purchased separately for >>> each country or region. >>> >>> My point here is I am paying significantly less for equivalent service. I >>> am >>> not getting clock-face directions, but with practice, I have something >>> better, an audio graphical map view interface which shows me the >>> information >>> via haptics (touch) and audio. >>> >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 03/03/2013, at 11:47, Keith Watson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to >>> upgrade or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become >>> available. If you do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to >>> work >>> the way it was sold to you. >>>> >>>> Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I then purchase an app >>>> called >>> Seeing Eye from a company called Sendero. I pay $100 for the app. time >>> goes >>> by. Lets say for the sake of argument that its 3 years later. In the >>> interim >>> I have lost my job, the stock market has crashed and the bank has taken >>> my >>> house back. I have a job interview and want to use this app to find my >>> way >>> to it. I turn it on and low and behold they want another $100 in order >>> for >>> me to use it. In other words I have rented the app for 3 years and now >>> its >>> useless to me. To my small mind this is not good business. I would go so >>> far >>> as to call it extortion. If I am going to pay that high a price for >>> something I damned well want to own it. >>>> >>>> I do not know what Garmon is going to do with map updates. Whether they >>> are going to be free or not is besides the point. I bought Navigon. It >>> will >>> work the way it is until I get rid of the device, IOS changes so >>> drasticallyy that it no longer is supported or something else better >>> comes >>> along to replace it. The choice is mine, not theirs. >>>> >>>> Again, these are my opinions and my thoughts. I by no means condemn >>>> those >>> of you who have the money to waste on this type of business plan. 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