Hi Sarah,
I think you explain it well, button-free mode works with gestures like a swipe left for Jump Back, a swipe right for Jump Forward, I believe a swipe down inserts a Bookmark and I can't remember what the swipe up does. I think it also makes sense in a way, I find for the most part that I want to go back rather than forward so the Jump Back button makes more sense than a Jump Forward button. In any case, the Jump forward and jump Back by 30 seconds is available via a single finger swipe up or down once you touch the Time elapsed readout where Voiceover says, for example, "1 minute 43 seconds in current chapter, adjustable". I think the current version of the Audible app is the best it has ever been and the below 3 things are the only improvements/fixes I'd like to see: 1. Voiceover feedback for the currently highlighted chapter on the Chapters and Bookmarks page. Here the currently playing chapter is visually highlighted and I'd love it if Voiceover would indicate which chapter is playing when you move through the list by saying something like "currently playing, Chapter 5". 2. Sleeptimer: it would be really nice if there was an option to reset the sleep timer before it runs out and stops playback. The dedicated sleeptimer app iTired does this beautifully by allowing you to set a time interval, for example, 10 seconds or 20 seconds during which a subtle tone plays. You can also select the tone you want although I'd be quite happy if Audible selected a tone which wasn't intrusive enough to wake me up if I was falling asleep and if it played it for 10 seconds before playback stops. Then any action like pressing the Home Key or a volume key would indicate that I am still awake and want to reset the sleeptimer to whichever selection I had chosen. 3. Time remaining readout: This seems to be a bit inconsistent because I have quite a few books which I played to the end and which, when I look at the parts of the book, all say they have nothing left, but when I go back to the main book list, it shows there is a couple of minutes left. Apart from this I think the app is fantastic. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Cranston Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:32 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: Thoughts on the latest Audible update Hi Arnold, I don't think there is a Jump Forward button. While there is a jump forward gesture in the button-free mode, this is not an actual button. As the name implies, Button-free mode doesn't have buttons. It was created for sighted users who need to operate their phones while driving and shouldn't be looking at the screen. All the gestures in the button-free mode are not dependent on finding the exact placement of a button. As far as I know none of the Audible players have ever had a Jump Forward button that jumps forward the same amount of time as the Jump Back button jumps back. Have you asked a sighted person to look at the Audible app on your phone? Is there a button there that VO can't see? Thanks, Sarah From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts on the latest Audible update I hadn't checked, but I hoped you could change how far it would go forward and back in the settings, as you can with the jump forward and back buttons. Now, if we just could get that jump forward button to be visible to VoiceOver. Although I will probably not use it much, I need to review to teach myself again how to go into button free mode, then use the jump forward feature when I want to skip by greater than 30 second intervals. When I needed it the other day, I turned VoiceOver off, but couldn't figure out how to get any further. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:38 AM Subject: RE: Thoughts on the latest Audible update Hi Arnold, Yes, I still use the Jump Back button since I can set it to go 60 seconds or 90 seconds whereas the swipe gesture goes forward or back by 30 seconds. This gesture has been there for a while, it was not in the original 2.0 release, but I think in the next one. Now in the last version we also have Previous and Next Chapter buttons again and everything is almost perfect. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts on the latest Audible update A good feature: I don't know how long this has been available, it may have come with the update before this one, I just figured it out with this update. Even though I still wish the jump forward button were visible to VoiceOver, there is a way to move around in a chapter, even while it is playing, so perhaps it makes the jump forward and backward buttons redundant.Before, we had to turn VoiceOver off and go into button free mode to jump forward, but now,I can touch just slightly down from the top right of the screen, just to the left of where it says how much total time is left , and it says the progress in the current chapter, and that it can be changed by swiping up and down. I really like this ability. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 3:58 AM Subject: Thoughts on the latest Audible update Hello List, I am curious what people think about the most recent Audible update (version 2.0.4 from June 18). Now that the Previous and Next chapter buttons are back on the main screen I think this app the best it has ever been. One thing I have not yet figured out is how one uses the volume button to change the volume. When I double tap it Voiceover says 66% adjustable, but swiping up or down then seems to change my playback position rather than the volume. Of course I can simply increase or decrease the volume using the volume buttons on the phone and I am only curious as to how it works with the volume button since using the physical buttons on the phone makes a lot more sense to me in any case. I'd also like to hear how easy people find it to locate the Airplay and Volume button by moving your finger around the screen. Not sure if it's just me, but I think they are quite small and you really have to be right on them. I also find it not very intuitive that Audible has changed the order these buttons show up when you swipe from left to right. Physically at the very top left of the screen is the Back button, just a bit to the right of that is the Airplay button. Then there seems to be a gap and on the right side of the screen is first the Volume button and then at the very top right is the Product Info button. However, if you put your finger on the Back button and swipe right once, Voiceover skips the Airplay button which is next and goes to the Volume button. Another swipe then takes you correctly to the right and onto the Product Info button and only a third swipe takes you back to the left and the Airplay button. The last item which they still have not done is to make the visual highlighting accessible on the Chapters and Bookmarks page. A sighted person sees the listing of chapters in the currently playing part and the chapter that is currently playing is highlighted. If you go through the chapter list with Voiceover you have no indication which chapter is currently playing. If it is visually highlighted, shouldn't it be possible to make Voiceover say "Currently Playing" when you come to the chapter that is playing? You can now find that information on the main screen, here it will say, for example, "Chapter 17 of 25" but it would be nice if Voiceover announced the highlighting in the Chapters and Bookmarks section as well. In the update from a few days ago the mention accessibility improvements as part of a list of "minor improvements", but I am not sure what this refers to specifically. I will write another feedback message to Audible because they really have done a fantastic job with the app, but I'll continue to point out that issue with the Chapters and Bookmarks page. I would also love it if they put an option in the sleep timer similar to what the iTired app offers which is a subtle sound maybe 10 or 15 seconds before the sleep timer stops playback and if at that point you are still awake and want to continue to listen pushing a button like volume up or down should reset the sleep timer to whatever interval you chose, e.g. 8 minutes, 15 minutes etc. iTired is such a brilliant and simple sleep timer and I really wonder why this functionality to reset the timer before it expires is not something more developers include into the sleep timers in their apps. iTired unfortunately only works with the stock Music app and not with third-party apps like Audible, Downcast etc. Anybody who wants to write to Audible, the email address is [email protected]. 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