Hi Arnold,
You turn Voiceover off, then touch at the very bottom just above the home key and do a single finger swipe up. If you hit it right this will enable button free mode, you can simply check if it worked by doing a single finger swipe left to right to see if it jumps forward or right to left to see if it jumps back. I found it to be tricky to start the swipe up at the right point, if you touch a bit too high you activate the Chapters and Bookmarks button and I really don't find a need for it since I can touch the playback position and then flick up or down and get the same functionality without having to turn off Voiceover. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts on the latest Audible update I don't know whether there is an actual jump forward button or not, it seems that if there were a jump back button, there would be a jump forward button, too. I am just going by what it says in settings. It mentions a jump forward/back. There is a way for us to use the button free mode, by turning VoiceOver off, then using the gestures. I know I saved the message explaining how to do it, I can't find it right now. I know I saved it. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Cranston <mailto:[email protected]> To: '[email protected]' Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Thoughts on the latest Audible update Hi Arnold, I don't think there is a Jump Forward button. While there is a jump forward gesture in the button-free mode, this is not an actual button. As the name implies, Button-free mode doesn't have buttons. It was created for sighted users who need to operate their phones while driving and shouldn't be looking at the screen. All the gestures in the button-free mode are not dependent on finding the exact placement of a button. As far as I know none of the Audible players have ever had a Jump Forward button that jumps forward the same amount of time as the Jump Back button jumps back. Have you asked a sighted person to look at the Audible app on your phone? Is there a button there that VO can't see? Thanks, Sarah From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts on the latest Audible update I hadn't checked, but I hoped you could change how far it would go forward and back in the settings, as you can with the jump forward and back buttons. Now, if we just could get that jump forward button to be visible to VoiceOver. Although I will probably not use it much, I need to review to teach myself again how to go into button free mode, then use the jump forward feature when I want to skip by greater than 30 second intervals. When I needed it the other day, I turned VoiceOver off, but couldn't figure out how to get any further. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:38 AM Subject: RE: Thoughts on the latest Audible update Hi Arnold, Yes, I still use the Jump Back button since I can set it to go 60 seconds or 90 seconds whereas the swipe gesture goes forward or back by 30 seconds. This gesture has been there for a while, it was not in the original 2.0 release, but I think in the next one. Now in the last version we also have Previous and Next Chapter buttons again and everything is almost perfect. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts on the latest Audible update A good feature: I don't know how long this has been available, it may have come with the update before this one, I just figured it out with this update. Even though I still wish the jump forward button were visible to VoiceOver, there is a way to move around in a chapter, even while it is playing, so perhaps it makes the jump forward and backward buttons redundant.Before, we had to turn VoiceOver off and go into button free mode to jump forward, but now,I can touch just slightly down from the top right of the screen, just to the left of where it says how much total time is left , and it says the progress in the current chapter, and that it can be changed by swiping up and down. I really like this ability. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 3:58 AM Subject: Thoughts on the latest Audible update Hello List, I am curious what people think about the most recent Audible update (version 2.0.4 from June 18). Now that the Previous and Next chapter buttons are back on the main screen I think this app the best it has ever been. One thing I have not yet figured out is how one uses the volume button to change the volume. When I double tap it Voiceover says 66% adjustable, but swiping up or down then seems to change my playback position rather than the volume. Of course I can simply increase or decrease the volume using the volume buttons on the phone and I am only curious as to how it works with the volume button since using the physical buttons on the phone makes a lot more sense to me in any case. I'd also like to hear how easy people find it to locate the Airplay and Volume button by moving your finger around the screen. Not sure if it's just me, but I think they are quite small and you really have to be right on them. I also find it not very intuitive that Audible has changed the order these buttons show up when you swipe from left to right. Physically at the very top left of the screen is the Back button, just a bit to the right of that is the Airplay button. Then there seems to be a gap and on the right side of the screen is first the Volume button and then at the very top right is the Product Info button. However, if you put your finger on the Back button and swipe right once, Voiceover skips the Airplay button which is next and goes to the Volume button. Another swipe then takes you correctly to the right and onto the Product Info button and only a third swipe takes you back to the left and the Airplay button. The last item which they still have not done is to make the visual highlighting accessible on the Chapters and Bookmarks page. A sighted person sees the listing of chapters in the currently playing part and the chapter that is currently playing is highlighted. If you go through the chapter list with Voiceover you have no indication which chapter is currently playing. If it is visually highlighted, shouldn't it be possible to make Voiceover say "Currently Playing" when you come to the chapter that is playing? You can now find that information on the main screen, here it will say, for example, "Chapter 17 of 25" but it would be nice if Voiceover announced the highlighting in the Chapters and Bookmarks section as well. In the update from a few days ago the mention accessibility improvements as part of a list of "minor improvements", but I am not sure what this refers to specifically. I will write another feedback message to Audible because they really have done a fantastic job with the app, but I'll continue to point out that issue with the Chapters and Bookmarks page. I would also love it if they put an option in the sleep timer similar to what the iTired app offers which is a subtle sound maybe 10 or 15 seconds before the sleep timer stops playback and if at that point you are still awake and want to continue to listen pushing a button like volume up or down should reset the sleep timer to whatever interval you chose, e.g. 8 minutes, 15 minutes etc. iTired is such a brilliant and simple sleep timer and I really wonder why this functionality to reset the timer before it expires is not something more developers include into the sleep timers in their apps. iTired unfortunately only works with the stock Music app and not with third-party apps like Audible, Downcast etc. Anybody who wants to write to Audible, the email address is [email protected]. 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