Hi Mario,

Yes, those are good points as is the suggestion to allow for text selection
by setting a start and finish marker. Something I will have to include in a
wish-list to Apple Accessibility, even if they seem less receptive, I think
it's still important to keep the emails coming. They might already consider
features which, if they hear from people that they are sought after, might
get priority.


Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Mario Barbuto
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:44 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: RE: Questions concerning using email on the iPhone.

       Hi Sieghard,

of course, I don't want to compare two pieces of technology so 
different like a computer and a mobile phone.
I do completely agree with you the touchscreen systems have less 
flexibility and a low range of features, including editing functions.
But some very easy to implement editing functions I'm sure will help 
the users and will not cost too much from the programming side.
Christopher, for example, already suggested a very simple way for 
having comfortable editing functions to select blocks of text like in 
Emacs editor.
The same way, I guess many other blind users would have clever suggestions
too.

Actually, my idea is even simpler than that Christopher suggested.
In fact, I'd appreciate just a couple of new functions included into 
the edit menu:

"Select from cursor to end of text";
"Select from cursor to beginning of text".

This way, while editing an email answer, for example, you could 
quickly and easily select and delete the long tail of consecutive 
previous Replies, often consisting of hundreds text lines.

To finish, roughly speaking, it is a good idea to take a look at 
other touchscreen systems like Android, to see if better editing 
solutions could be implemented in IOS too, although Apple 
accessibility developers recently seem to me a little less sensitive 
to users suggestions.
I'll investigate the Android next weeks with the friendly help of 
some other blind users certainly higher experienced than me in using 
that system.

Warmly,

Mario.


At 05:44 02/07/2013, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>Hi Mario,
>
>Might I ask how you would suggest this can be improved? What gestures would
>you like to see for selecting text and are there other touch screen devices
>which offer a better experience? I guess I should rephrase this, do Android
>phones offer a more user friendly experience when it comes to selecting
text
>since to my knowledge those are the only other somewhat accessible touch
>screen devices out there? I have never used an Android device so forgive my
>ignorance, but is selecting text and copy/cut/paste even accessible for a
>blind user on an Android phone?
>
>With a bit of practice I find it relatively easy to set my rotor to lines
>and then use multiple pinch out gestures one after another to select a fair
>bit of text. When you are talking about hundreds of lines then sure, I
agree
>that this would be a challenge, but then again I do have a computer and
>while my iPhone is awesome and I can do lots of things with it, some things
>are still done more efficiently on the computer and I would hazard a guess
>and say that this holds true even for sighted people.
>
>
>Regards,
>Sieghard
>
>

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