I would agree with you BUT 1. Most developers DO NOT specify whether if the 
apps are VO accessible. Sooo those of us, like myself, play a game of hit or 
miss with apps being Vo Accessible. And from my experience, most developers DO 
NOT include their contact info in the apps description. And one can't assume 
that just because the lite version of an app isn't VO accessible the paid 
version isn't as well. An example of this is Moxie classic, which as of my last 
check is Free and isn't VO accessible. Moxie 2 is a paid app and is VO 
accessible. 

2. And there are instances where the Free version of an app is VO accessible 
and with the developer's upgrades they have chosen for whatever reason to no 
longer have the app VO accessible. 

3. A sighted person has not only the app description, but 5 different picture 
screen shots showing what the app of interest looks like. So a sighted person 
is given a little more info to aid them when making a purchase. What you are 
overlooking is the fact a person with sight can try out the FREE version of an 
app before buying the full version. 

So until Apple forces ALL app developers to add in the apps description whether 
the apps are VO accessible and require developers to incclude their contact 
info in the description, putting the blind VO user on the same level buying 
apps playing field, Ifeel Apple has no right to deny a blind user a refund! No 
one is pulling the blind card when requesting a refund, we are asking for 
equality to be offered when desiding to purchase an app. Until that equality is 
met and ALL info provided for us VO users we deserve a refund for an 
unsatisfactory product. 

Donna   


> Hi All,
>  
> My concern here is this.  So what happens when a sighted person gets an app 
> and they think it doesn't meet their needs.  Do they get a refund?  I'd guess 
> not.  This sounds to me to much like pulling out the blind card. What I'm 
> saying here is, if there is a satisfaction guaranteed or your money back 
> policy in place then that's one thing but just because it doesn't work well 
> with voice over may not fly.-------
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alan
>  
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:49 AM
> Subject: RE: Bad experience with iTunes    Store support regarding app refund
> 
> Hi Cara,
>  
> I agree and think that unless Apple comes up with a better way to do this 
> they should be willing to give Voiceover users a refund without the hassle. I 
> must say, however, that I really like that 15 minute return policy Google 
> apparently offers, but of course trying to get Apple to do something like 
> that is not just a completely different ball game, it’s a different sport!
>  
> If Apple was really concerned that this would be abused, they could request 
> proof that somebody is actually visually impaired or they could limit refunds 
> to a certain number per year. I am very sure that given their computers they 
> could easily track this on somebody’s Apple Id.
>  
> If you are getting involved in this feel free to use my below messages as an 
> example, I am pasting the message I sent without the purchase details, i.e. 
> order number and all that, as well as the response I received.
> It was obvious that the person who responded somehow seemed to understand the 
> situation, but on another level she apparently didn’t. She summarized my 
> request by saying I “inadvertently “ purchased some apps which of course is 
> not at all the case and not what I said.
> Here is my initial message and her reply which makes me think she really 
> didn’t get it despite the fact that she said it was an “appropriate 
> exception” and they would refund me the money which still has not happened:
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:04 AM
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: Voiceover inaccessible apps
>  
> Hello,
>  
> My name is Sieghard Weitzel. I recently purchased several apps for tracking 
> packages in order to find out which one offered the best features. I tried a 
> couple more, but they had free Lite versions which allowed me to try them 
> before buying the full version.
>  
> I am blind and have been an iPhone/Voiceover user for almost 4 years and 
> unfortunately I found that two of the paid and 2 of the free/Lite apps have 
> accessibility issues and I was not able to use them with Voiceover. I wrote 
> to the developers, but have not received any reply as to whether they might 
> consider making improvements so the apps would work with Voiceover. I used 
> iTunes credit to pay for the paid apps and was wondering if it was possible 
> to receive a refund since I have already deleted the apps from my phone.
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: iTunes Store [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 4:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Voiceover inaccessible apps; Follow-up: 280679929
>  
> Dear Sieghard,
>  
> Greetings from iTunes Store Customer Support. My name is Alishia and I am 
> happy to assist you today.
>  
> I understand that you inadvertently purchased some apps from the App Store 
> and you would like to receive a refund for the purchase. I know how important 
> it is to have the issue resolved. I assure you of assistance.
>  
> Sieghard, after reviewing the circumstances of your case, we determined that 
> issuing you a refund for the purchase of "Apps" is an appropriate exception 
> to the iTunes Store Terms and Conditions, which state that all sales are 
> final.
>  
> You will see 6.70 CAD added to your store credit balance within 48 hours. You 
> may need to sign out of the iTunes Store and then sign back in before you see 
> the credit in your account.
>  
> The iTunes Store provides a warning message that asks if you are sure that 
> you want to buy an item. This warning can be turned off. If you would like to 
> make sure that this warning is on, you can reset the warnings in the iTunes 
> Store by following the instructions in this article:
>  
> Resetting iTunes Store warnings
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1734
>  
> Additionally, you can make modifications on certain devices that will prevent 
> them from making purchases:
>  
> iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch: Understanding Restrictions
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4213
>  
> I hope the information provided would resolve your issue.
>  
> Sieghard, if you have any additional questions, please let me know and I will 
> be happy to assist you further. Thank you for being a valued member of iTunes 
> family.
>  
> Have a nice day!
>  
> Sincerely,
>  
> Alishia
> iTunes Store Customer Support
> http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww/
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