You think? Do you have NDA? Can you quote verbatim the paragraphs binding him to secrecy which you say he broke? If not, then please do us all a favor and get your facts straight, then come back and bash me to death if you like. I await your reply.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:12:34 +0100, you wrote: >To me I think Sean was breaking the Nda. Apple has never released betas >of iOs or Os X as public, and I can't see that changing. I actually am >for this and wished other companies would follow suit. This is why even >the first go round of Apple's new operating system is so polished. >Just my £0.02 worth. > > >On 26/08/2013 18:47, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> I listened to the podcast, and I never heard it stated that this was a >> public beta. The podcaster also never explained how he got the beta >> himself. Although he acknowledged that there's a lot of information on >> IOS 7 available out there on the web, he also admitted that there are >> people out there who don't feel information on IOS 7 should be >> distributed unless it's done by Apple or until IOS 7 has been released. >> It isn't clear to me, after listening to the podcast, whether this is a >> public beta or whether an NDA has been violated or not. >> >> I'm OK with Cara and Raul determining what is and isn't appropriate for >> the list. I just think our facts need to be accurate, and we shouldn't >> claim things are publicly available or that NDA's haven't been violated >> when the source we're pointing to doesn't even address those points. >> >> BTW, I don't think there's any more dissension in the blindness >> community than there is in the general public. We're all people and >> anyone can voice an opinion without or without facts to back it up and >> the blind don't have a monopoly on this behavior. >> >> I'm curious, does the 37 messages include the half of dozen messages you >> contributed to the thread? Just curious, since I haven't been counting >> myself. >> >> On 08/26/2013 12:11 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: >>> I can't believe there were thirty-seven messages written about this >>> topic, none of which would have been necessary if anybody had listened >>> to the program. Thinking that it was one I hadn't heard before, I >>> downloaded it and listened. I got about two minutes into it, and >>> realized I had indeed heard it before. If any of you who complained >>> about Joseph's having posted this link would have done the same, you >>> all would have heard what I heard the first time, and then again just >>> now, that this release was already in public beta, there were no >>> non-disclosure agreements violated, nothing was being disclosed that >>> should not have been, information about it was all over everywhere, >>> and that Shawn was simply going to spotlight, if you will, the >>> accessibility features that had changed, something that most other >>> YouTube videos would doubtfully have covered. All of you people who >>> bashed Joseph for posting the link really need to grow up and get your >>> facts straight before jumping on your keyboards and writing about >>> things of which you know nothing. You wonder why there is so much >>> dissention in the blind community about anything at all? It's because, >>> while everybody has an opinion, nobody seems to have the facts. >>> Opinions are cheap--everybody has one. Facts, now, they're expensive. >>> They require thought and research. Exercise the same before bashing >>> somebody who tried to do you a favor. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing [email protected]. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
