that is different between an information podcast and more of a general overview podcast and of course, the tutorial type of podcast. At the end of the day, it come to user choice. It is great to have options for people to chooce from. But some of these choices can also misslead user to certain path (not at all finger pointing at anyone but general comment). As for me, personally, i'm more a hands on person. i will listen to podcast or read some guides when i feel thats a need for it. In this case, having tutorials or podcasts may be good for some, but as i said for myself, i'm more in to hand on approach. Which, by saying that, i believe applevis will give me enough reviews, blogs, podcasts and general information for me to go by at this stage. Unless there's some super duper dramatic changes that take place from ios6 to 7, then, i might consider to consult these tutorials, podcasts, etc. Also, when come to thing like this, i believe, Google will be one of my besties. :)
On 06/09/2013, Chris H <[email protected]> wrote: > No I agree. I love podcasts but can't be doing with the chit chat before > the main part. Hence me trying the tutorials as books approach. When I > do podcasts I just get on with it but that's just me. > > On 06/09/2013 01:02, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> I feel the same way about podcasts. I just don't usually hav the >> patience to listen to a tutorial in a podcast. Even if you can speed it >> up, you still have to skip through the introductory words, the chit chat >> and so on. Plus if it covers a lot of topics, you have to fast forward >> to get to the parts that you're interested in. I've usually figured >> things out through trial and error before I get through the podcast. >> >> I'd much rather work through a soft copy document where I can review the >> table of contents and jump right to the sections I'm interested in. >> Furthermore, searching for a note after the fact is much less tedious >> then looking through your podcasts to find the point you forgot. >> >> I'm not knocking podcasts. I listen to them myself, and I'll >> occasionally listen to a tutorial via a podcast as well. It's just that >> for me, it's not my preferred way to learn something or the first thing >> I'll grab when I want to figure something new out. >> >> >> On 09/05/2013 06:48 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> Apple vis and this list will be my first stop once IOS7 is released! >>> <Smile>. There is nothing better than cranking up the speed on an audio >>> presentation and pausing when experimentation is needed as I follow >>> along. >>> At this point, and for me only, reading in Braille or Braille display is >>> unnecessarily slow; it feels like using an abacus rather than a >>> calculator. >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Scott Davert" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial >>> >>> >>> I agree with those saying that it's all about personal preference. I'm >>> here to tell you though that Applevis, and I'm sure others, have lots >>> of free materials headed out the door when release time comes. Within >>> 1 or 2 hours I'd say at most. But for something hopefully more >>> professionally done, these are good resources as well. I know for my >>> part, I get paid $0 for what I do and am fine with it. But it may not >>> be the most pollished presentation. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 9/5/13, Paul Ferrara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Christopher, I agree with you; I do not purchase these tutorials often, >>>> but >>>> >>>> I am going to have to walk my wife through IOS 7 and quickly so this >>>> time >>>> I >>>> >>>> decided to make the purchase. I am one of those who will read it, >>>> digest >>>> it, >>>> >>>> and listen to some additional podcasts too, but it is definitely a >>>> personal >>>> >>>> decision, no different than which twitter app, which barcode app, etc. >>>> that >>>> >>>> someone uses. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Christopher Chaltain >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:38 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial >>>> >>>> I think this is a personal decision each person will have to make for >>>> themselves. Some people may prefer having all of this information at >>>> once and in one place rather than waiting for podcasts to show up on >>>> various sites and wade through the back and forth that will occur on >>>> different mailing lists. Some people may prefer a reference and a >>>> manual >>>> format over a podcast format. IMHO, this resource may or may not be >>>> worth paying for for some people, but I don't think anyone can make >>>> this >>>> decision for anyone else. >>>> >>>> On 09/05/2013 08:30 AM, Fred Olver wrote: >>>>> I agree with you, Scott, I can't see a need to spend money on a >>>>> resource >>>>> which most people don't use to it's full extent anyway. Besides, why >>>>> pay >>>>> for it when most of the information will be soon available for free. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fred Olver >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Author of Dealing with Vision Loss >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> have a look it just makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Davert" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:24 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7 Tutorial >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For those who wish to access this sort of material via audio, or who >>>>> are jus interested in what's new with accessibility, I think I can >>>>> publicly say that Applevis will be covering a lot of the VoiceOver >>>>> stuff as soon as iOS 7 is released to the public. Not that these other >>>>> resources aren't good, because I'm sure they will be, just throwing >>>>> another one out there. >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> On 9/5/13, Kliphton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I think the one Jonathan Mosen has is much better, especially since >>>>>> it >>>>>> covers IOS7 from a voice over user perspective. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kliphton Senior >>>>>> (iMessage) [email protected] - Email [email protected] >>>>>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >>>>>> [Text only] 914-820-2298 >>>>>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) >>>>>> http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of Joseph FreeTech >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:43 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: IOS 7 Tutorial >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> For those of you planning to upgrade to IOS 7 next month, here is a >>>>>> link I >>>>>> just bumped into. It is a tutorial describing how to use the new >>>>>> features >>>>>> of >>>>>> IOS 7. The tutorial sounds like an amazing buy at $5. They take >>>>>> PayPal >>>>>> too! >>>>>> >>>>>> "Pre-Order Today: The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility, iOS7 >>>>>> Edition >>>>>> >>>>>> In celebration of the upcoming release of iOS 7 we've updated our Old >>>>>> Hat >>>>>> Guide to iPhone Accessibility to reflect the new changes and are >>>>>> thrilled >>>>>> to >>>>>> offer it to you for $4.99 when you pre-order on or before October 15! >>>>>> >>>>>> In this updated edition you will find lots more videos, iOS7 specific >>>>>> tips >>>>>> and tricks and more! >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't waste another minute, follow the link below and get your >>>>>> hands on >>>>>> a >>>>>> copy of The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility, iOS7 Edition and >>>>>> pay >>>>>> only >>>>>> $4.99 when you pre-order on or before October 15! >>>>>> >>>>>> Written as the "lost manual" for anyone and everyone wanting to dig >>>>>> even >>>>>> deeper into iOS (or maybe even take the first steps), "The Old Hat >>>>>> Guide To >>>>>> iPhone Accessibility, iOS7 Edition" follows one of Fedora Outlier's >>>>>> own, >>>>>> Brie, as she shares her tears, fears and triumphs as she goes from >>>>>> "scared >>>>>> to death" of her new Apple tech, to a master and mascot for the >>>>>> empowerment >>>>>> and freedom which comes with her shiny iDevice. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the updated version of this book, we'll use easy-to-follow >>>>>> instructions, >>>>>> personal testimonies and video/audio demonstrations to cover: >>>>>> The accessibility settings and how to adjust them based on your needs >>>>>> Walkthrough of the VoiceOver gestures and simple tricks for mastering >>>>>> them >>>>>> Rundown of the apps included with your iOS device Basic techniques on >>>>>> how >>>>>> to >>>>>> browse the web using Safari Managing mail, contacts and calendars >>>>>> with >>>>>> your >>>>>> iDevice Advanced concepts for iCloud, Siri and dictation, purchasing >>>>>> apps >>>>>> and much more" >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/order/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope I'm not offending anyone by posting this, but since we're all >>>>>> posting >>>>>> information, apps, and tutorials regarding how to use our IOS >>>>>> devices, >>>>>> the >>>>>> content seemed relevant. :) Also, don't forget that there will be >>>>>> tons >>>>>> of >>>>>> tips and tricks shared by many on this list once IOS 7 is released. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joseph >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google >>>>>> Group. >>>>>> >>>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You 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