Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other
buttons
as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night with
no
knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, but
then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think
that
it has.
Neal
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS
6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty
for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker?
It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but
seriously
dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is true, then
why
did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple downloaded the
iOS
on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your willingness to choose
to
instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet you didn't read, and then
choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your fingers to tap the install
and
the agree button. And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make
sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it. if
this
sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you will
see
that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things to offer.
Also,
the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have pushed
it
out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions of users who use
the iPhone daily love it fine and don't complain about it because it's
what
they want.
This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to
express
your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should
consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad.
You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So, this
leads me to believe that you always think negatively. If you hate Apple
and
iPhones so much, why do you even bother having one?
--
Raul A. Gallegos
I don't think I could kill someone. Let's face it, the closest I've got
to
murder is holding an Oreo under the milk until the bubbles stop. -
Sheldon
Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
On 10/4/2013 3:43 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the
IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,
and it is filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that
information stored in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email.
Either apple.
When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in
the operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our
devices. So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple
devices are the more expensive devices, no when apple is a company
that sales iDevices for a price that for the most part of the people
on the world, are impossible.
When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but
at the same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my
permission, and the only way to make that space free is installing the
IOs 7, is not a freedom, it is not a right the god apple gives to us.
This is a command from apple.
so I don't see so ridiculous my email.
when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not
bugs, and not bunches of bugs as IOs 7 has. Even though, as you say,
apple give us the right to use their software, thing that is not a
right, it is a command, but their software is not working well, but we
are not able to go back to the IOs that was working better, it is a
right?
No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email,
ridiculous .
Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You
paid for that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money,
it was money that could be the payment for a whole year of work in many
countries on the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that you
paid because you were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
But let me tell you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
ridiculous is when we pay to a company that created a good software,
a good hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your
life. But later they changed the software, and you start to get
problems with many things in your device, but you fill ok, because
every IOs bring bugs. It is ridiculous , because you didn't pay with
money cracked, you didn't paid it with a check without funds, you
paid it with money, good money.
What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my
iPhone, without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a
lot of bugs, and they don't allow us to come back to the software that
they created, that works better is a right?
No, it is not a right.
On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
<jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote:
Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use
the software.
On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:
So is it running slow on the 5s as well?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
Hi,
I haven't seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS
7. Is
it slower than my iPhone 5? Yes. But, I think 5 seconds to open
most apps
is a bit of an exaggeration. Sure, some apps might take a while,
the more resource intensive ones, but, definitely not the majority
of apps.
JMO.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Pablo Morales
<pablomorale...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are
on the
streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we
need the gps, So 5 seconds is too much. Now, if in the newer
versions of iPhone takes around 2 seconds, I would like to know,
why?
The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones?
maybe the graphic appearance?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Sullivan"
<troysulliva...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS
6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right
away, it
could be because I have an older phone though. I'm not able to
upgrade without a discount until 2015 though so I will deal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H"
<christopher...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS
6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under
two on a
4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone.
E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com
On 02/10/2013 13:47, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that
sounds like you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs
slower on older phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up.
i just can't buy that.
--
Raul A. Gallegos
Oh I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why I'm right. -
Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
On 9/30/2013 10:25 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
Yes, IOs 7 is good running on new devices like iPhone 4s, 5
and 5s, but this new IOs make slower the iPhone 4, and is very
annoying try to run what ever app when voice over works so
slow, when what ever app takes until 50 seconds to start
opening, and when we have to try and try several times to run
an app. Is obvious that IOs 7 is heavy for the processor that
the iPhone 4 has, so make an update of operated system will be
good for the users who has iDevices with processors relative
new, but not every body is in position of go to buy an iPhone
5s, or pay around 800$ every years when ever apple create an
new device. We are customers, and customers of apple doesn't
mean richness.
Is a lot of people who had to make a very hard effort to buy an
iPhone, so why apple is trying to make those devices slower,
and push them to buy new devices with faster processors to run
what ever IOs apple wants?
We are the owners of our iDevices, we are not renting those
devices, so if I paid for that device, why apple has rights on
my property?
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