Sorry I had worded the part in my message Re: the Focus14 blue and status cells poorly. What the Focus14 blue doesn't have, is the "Navrow" of buttons that the 40 blue does have.
----- Original Message ----- From: Flor Lynch To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or Speaking Information That 'expanded status' message is then probably just a generic message, as I would call it, a message generated by software rather than by a human. I have sometimes found that so-called help (also in iOS) is still only helpful in a technical sense. For example, You might have WiFi turned on, but that doesn't mean that you're connected to your Wifi network. I have a Focus14 Blue (paired with my iPhone) which doesn't have the navrow of buttons, and also a Focus40 Blue (that does), which I haven't paired with my iPhone but use with PC mostly though also sometimes with laptop. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Teresa Cochran To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or Speaking Information I'm not sure. It's a Focus 40 Blue. There isn't a hardware setting for status cells, but in iOS, it's a Voiceover setting. I set it to "left" and it does show a cell with dots on the left. i have looked up the m,ning of the dots on Applevis and found out what each one means. However, VO doesn't display or speak the expanded descriptions of the status, as the VO help would seem to indicate. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: But does VoiceOver know them as 'status cells'? ----- Original Message ----- From: Teresa Cochran To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or Speaking Information Oh, but I want to experiment with the status cells. I'd like to know what kind of information it provides. I have a 40-cell display, so that's not an issue. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: Perhaps it is similar to the status cells when using the display with a Windows or Mac screen reader. I never bothered with those status messages too much, and even turned the status cells off. Besides, if you have a smallish display, every cell counts when showing information. Wayne On 7/21/14, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: Expanded status indicates things like Voiceover muting, screen cchrtain, and I believe text attributes, though I'm not entirely sure about that last one. Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan On Jul 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy <[email protected]> wrote: I saw that in the keyboard help when I pressed the first router key to the left with the same results. This left me wondering what an expanded status was. Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jul 2014, at 04:19, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, all, I was exploring the status functions with my Focus 40 Blue. When I press the cursor-routing keys in cell 2, keyboard help reports that it toggles expanded description. However, I get no audible or Braille feedback, even when I press n-space for andouncement history. Am I missing something? Thanks, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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