When I googled on this, last night, I couldn't find much more enlightening.
There is (or was) a Google group called Applebraille. (And some members of this
list will have known of it.) I came across references to it in google
searching. I believe that in the To: line you would put:
applebraille+subscr...@googlegroups.com - if joining it.
Also, you could try J. M., he of FS, the famous Consulting, and of
appcessible.net >. he uses braille extensively, and probably Focus Blue
displays. Inn my iOS tyro experience, even some of the buttons on the focus14
blue are somewhat superflluous in iPhone/iOS in that they duplicate
functionalities already catered for by others more main.
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From: Teresa Cochran
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or Speaking
Information
WEll, if exmanded status is supposed to show something, I figured I was
either not immlementing it correctly or there's a bug.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Jul 24, 2014, at 2:49 AM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:
Hi Teresa,
Almost precisely! It is *not* a human-generated message, but software
generated. So the developer put nothing more into it, it seems to me. There are
a few other situations on iPhone where this occurs.
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From: Teresa Cochran
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or Speaking
Information
Hi, Flor,
I lost you somewhere when you mentioned it being a human-generated
message. I am not even sure what you mean by that. The expanded status message
just shows more information about the Braille being displayed. The only human
factor involved would be whatever the developer put into that feature. So I
think I'm basically thoroughly confused.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Jul 23, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:
Sorry I had worded the part in my message Re: the Focus14 blue and
status cells poorly. What the Focus14 blue doesn't have, is the "Navrow" of
buttons that the 40 blue does have.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or
Speaking Information
That 'expanded status' message is then probably just a generic
message, as I would call it, a message generated by software rather than by a
human. I have sometimes found that so-called help (also in iOS) is still only
helpful in a technical sense. For example, You might have WiFi turned on, but
that doesn't mean that you're connected to your Wifi network. I have a Focus14
Blue (paired with my iPhone) which doesn't have the navrow of buttons, and also
a Focus40 Blue (that does), which I haven't paired with my iPhone but use with
PC mostly though also sometimes with laptop. .
----- Original Message -----
From: Teresa Cochran
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing Or
Speaking Information
I'm not sure. It's a Focus 40 Blue. There isn't a hardware setting
for status cells, but in iOS, it's a Voiceover setting. I set it to "left" and
it does show a cell with dots on the left. i have looked up the m,ning of the
dots on Applevis and found out what each one means. However, VO doesn't display
or speak the expanded descriptions of the status, as the VO help would seem to
indicate.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:
But does VoiceOver know them as 'status cells'?
----- Original Message -----
From: Teresa Cochran
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Braille: Expanded Status Description Not Showing
Or Speaking Information
Oh, but I want to experiment with the status cells. I'd like to
know what kind of information it provides. I have a 40-cell display, so that's
not an issue.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well,
and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Wayne Merritt
<wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is similar to the status cells when using the
display with
a Windows or Mac screen reader. I never bothered with those
status
messages too much, and even turned the status cells off.
Besides, if
you have a smallish display, every cell counts when showing
information.
Wayne
On 7/21/14, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
Expanded status indicates things like Voiceover muting,
screen cchrtain, and
I believe text attributes, though I'm not entirely sure
about that last
one.
Teresa
"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
On Jul 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog
Pammy
<hayasim...@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw that in the keyboard help when I pressed the first
router key to the
left with the same results. This left me wondering what
an expanded status
was.
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone
On 21 Jul 2014, at 04:19, Teresa Cochran
<batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
Hi, all,
I was exploring the status functions with my Focus 40
Blue. When I press
the cursor-routing keys in cell 2, keyboard help reports
that it toggles
expanded description. However, I get no audible or
Braille feedback, even
when I press n-space for andouncement history. Am I
missing something?
Thanks,
Teresa
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