I will read the article that is posted on Wednesday.  I would, and I'm sure 
that other members would also, to hear from all who have been testing, before I 
upgrade, if I do.  This feedback will greatly help in making the decision 
whether to upgrade or not.  Thanks.

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  From: PHILLIP TRACY 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:29 AM
  Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8


  I have been testing also, and I must agree wholeheartedly. It really is sad, 
Apple is really slipping these days. we certainly don't need to be rude, but we 
do need to be as forceful as possible. We need to be loud, and we need to draw 
attention to the fact that these things are being ignored. I would almost be 
willing to go so far as to say that Apple should apologize, and reaffirm their 
commitment to the voiceover user. they may be approaching a very slippery 
slope, and it would be in everyone's best interest to avoid such a fall off.

  Phillip Tracy
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 13, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:


    A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 
8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover 
issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like 
Voiceover saying “Screen Locked” twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 
was released.



    I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell 
Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by 
blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and 
almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that 
they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully 
blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls 
about these issues.



    I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I 
know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes out. 
Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday, 
September 17 with subject “The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with 
Voiceover”.

    What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not specifically 
accessibility related and they don’t happen if Voiceover is not running but as 
soon as Voiceover is on you suddenly are plagued by this and that.





    Regards,

    Sieghard





    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
    Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
    To: ViPone list
    Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8



    Here is a link to an article by Steven Aquino about the accessibility 
features in iOS 8:
    
http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/
    Richard



      "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor 
Hugo



      Sent from my iPhone

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