the apple still has the best accessible devices, and google dont care about 
making android more accessible. Sorry but in apple devices all solutions is 
already. Of course there are many bugs but now I think that is the most 
accessible devices for blind users.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Berry 
  To: Vi Phone 
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple updates and things related to accessibility, PDF documents 
and Flash


  I’d like to say that your right Apple is very committed to accessibility.  I 
spoke to a Tier 2 advisor who are the only one’s who know about the 
accessibility features.  Apple is wonderful and they are a place that I’d love 
to work as well.




    On Nov 21, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


    Hi Mary,

    I started a new thread here since we are straying a fair bit now from the 
original thread about Android Lollypop.

    I am also still convinced that Apple is commited to accessibility despite 
the fact that iOS 8 was released with so many Voiceover bugs. It really has 
only been just over 2 months since the release of iOS 8 and even if I don’t 
count that screw-up with iOS 8.0.1 which was replaced by 8.0.2 the next day, 
Apple has already released 3 updates to iOS in that time. Basically 
simultaneously with the release of iOS 8.1.1 Apple has now released a beta of 
iOS 8.2 to developers and if the follow the pattern of iOS 8.1 and 8.1.1 where 
the beta was released only 2 or 3 weeks before the public release we could see 
the public release of iOS 8.2 before Christmas and even if it does take longer, 
chances are it will come in January. I can’t discuss improvements, but simply 
the fact that Apple is pumping out updates as such a furious pace would 
indicate to me that they are dead serious about fixing iOS 8 although 8.2 is 
also a lot about the Apple Watch as developers now have access to the tools 
they need to start creating apps for this new category of iOS devices. Anyhow, 
I don’t think neither Android nor Windows can claim to have released 3 updates 
which were available to the vast majority of users in such a short time frame. 
One thing Apple has definitely done right is to force carriers to accept that 
they are in charge of software updates and releases and not the carrier and I 
think that is one huge benefit of Apple and iOS over anybody elses 
devices/platform.

    As for Flash, well, at this point it doesn’t look like it’s going away any 
time soon as I often find websites I go to use it.

    I didn’t know it was so difficult to read PDF documents with Voiceover on a 
Mac. For me that would definitely be a problem because I deal with all sorts of 
PDF files every day in my business and I love the fact that now with Jaws 16 it 
doesn’t even matter any more if they are accessible PDF’s since if they were 
just scanned I can still get mostly good results with the new OCR feature which 
allows me to open a PDF in Adobe and with 2 keystrokes to recognize the entire 
document and read it, search it or copy and paste from it.


    Regards,
    Sieghard



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