Just to play devil's advocate, I'm not sure needing to put out three updates in two months is a good thing. Alternatively, Apple could have just put out a OS with fewer bugs in the first place. I agree working this hard to get these issues fixed is good, but it isn't as good as not having to fix so much in the first place.

I'm still facing a lot of the same bugs I saw when IOS 8 was initially released almost two months ago. Getting updates out is good, but not getting notifications or having my phone start chattering away in a meeting even though I have the mute switch on, is getting pretty annoying, especially when you consider how much I paid for this device, which is exactly what my sighted counterparts payed, and they don't seem to be having these problems.

BTW, it isn't the carriers that have to add support for their devices and push out Android updates to their handsets, it's the hand set manufacturers that have to do this. Sometimes a carrier may logo a device from an OEM and muddy this distinction a bit though.

On 11/21/2014 11:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Mary,

I started a new thread here since we are straying a fair bit now from
the original thread about Android Lollypop.

I am also still convinced that Apple is commited to accessibility
despite the fact that iOS 8 was released with so many Voiceover bugs. It
really has only been just over 2 months since the release of iOS 8 and
even if I don’t count that screw-up with iOS 8.0.1 which was replaced by
8.0.2 the next day, Apple has already released 3 updates to iOS in that
time. Basically simultaneously with the release of iOS 8.1.1 Apple has
now released a beta of iOS 8.2 to developers and if the follow the
pattern of iOS 8.1 and 8.1.1 where the beta was released only 2 or 3
weeks before the public release we could see the public release of iOS
8.2 before Christmas and even if it does take longer, chances are it
will come in January. I can’t discuss improvements, but simply the fact
that Apple is pumping out updates as such a furious pace would indicate
to me that they are dead serious about fixing iOS 8 although 8.2 is also
a lot about the Apple Watch as developers now have access to the tools
they need to start creating apps for this new category of iOS devices.
Anyhow, I don’t think neither Android nor Windows can claim to have
released 3 updates which were available to the vast majority of users in
such a short time frame. One thing Apple has definitely done right is to
force carriers to accept that they are in charge of software updates and
releases and not the carrier and I think that is one huge benefit of
Apple and iOS over anybody elses devices/platform.

As for Flash, well, at this point it doesn’t look like it’s going away
any time soon as I often find websites I go to use it.

I didn’t know it was so difficult to read PDF documents with Voiceover
on a Mac. For me that would definitely be a problem because I deal with
all sorts of PDF files every day in my business and I love the fact that
now with Jaws 16 it doesn’t even matter any more if they are accessible
PDF’s since if they were just scanned I can still get mostly good
results with the new OCR feature which allows me to open a PDF in Adobe
and with 2 keystrokes to recognize the entire document and read it,
search it or copy and paste from it.

Regards,

Sieghard

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