Hi, I should like to add my voice to that of Pablo.I too felt somewhat pushed to update my for S.The unwanted update had been downloaded to my phone against my desires and was sitting using up the last bit of available space there.I could, of course, have deleted it, but it would've downloaded again!add to this the fact that I have severely restricted bandwidth and have no desire to download gigs of up dates dthat I don't want.I certainly don't want and cannot have this occurring on a repeated basis.Apple is in the wrong here.we should be able to downgrade if we find it necessary and we should be able to tick a box which says we will only download an update manually.for these reasons I would argue that Pablo has been completely correct throughout with regard to these policies re updating.
As far as moderation is concerned:I would have thought, given the blurb at the bottom of every email, that it would be better had you spent your time discouraging people from entering into a feeding frenzy of insulting remarks aimed at people who are discontented with the service Apple is in many ways foisting upon us.instead, I see you have joined in… Sandy Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:19, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Raul. > In the rules of the list, I don't see anywhere anything saying that the > messages posted to the list, should be something that is positive for apple. > Are you owner of apple? > No, right? > Ok, so if I am in disagreement with the way how apple is handling the > accessibility, something that affect me, you, and everybody in this email > list. What is your problem? > That my emails are not saying that IOs 8.x is great? > No, it is not great, and you know that. > That the way how apple is pushing everybody to upgrade their devices, not > allowing to reinstall the IOs that the people has already installed is not > fair, is not good? > Well, Raul, maybe it is something that is not positive, but it is true. > That IOs 8.1.1, after I asked here if they fixed the bugs that IOs 8 had, and > after read emails saying that there are some bugs, and other people saying > that IOs 8.1.1 is great, for example Sieghard. Person that looks like he > works with this matter, and has knowledge. > What is your problem if after read the post in the list, and after see that > I wasn't able to do a restore of my iPhone with the same version of IOs > 7.1.2 that I had installed, I feel me frustrated? > This email list is only for people who works for apple, or people who is > happy with apple? > No, I don't think so, I understand that this email list is to talk about > accessibility in apple devices, right? > Talk about accessibility is everything, good and bad things. > You remind me my country. In my country, or you support the government, > talking very good about the government, or you become in nothing, you lose > your job, and you don't receive any support from any authority. Because of > that I left my country, and now I am living in a great country, with freedom. > Any way, as owner of this email list, you can do what ever you want. > I am very frustrated with apple, with IOs, with the policies of apple, and I > got the freedom to say that I am getting a lot of problems with the IOs, and > also I have the freedom to be mad with the way how apple is handling the > Updates. Or to be mad for the low quality of IOs. I am not insulting you or > any body here, aas other members of the list has done against me before. > And by the way, you didn't do anything about it. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1 > > Pablo. Every release you go on and on about the same sob story. I'm seriusly > thinking of revoking your posting privileges on this list if this keeps up. > > > >> On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:02 AM, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, I know that I can not go back to IOs 7.1.2, and either, I couldn't >> restore my iPhone with IOs 7.1.2 installed in my phone, because IOs8 7.1.2 >> is not signed for apple. It means that mandatory I have to install IOs 8, >> liking or doesn't liking, I have to. >> But I don't understand why, the people is still buying this kind of >> treatment from apple. It is ridiculos, every release, apple make this kind >> of problems with the BT keyboards, but they don't learn of their previous >> mistakes, again, they do the same mistakes, and again, the same mistakes. a >> Again, it was my last apple device. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:44 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> Then you should have stayed with iOS 7.1.2, the issues with bluetooth >> keyboards and braille displays have been well documented. And in case you >> wonder, no, you can't go back to iOS 7.1.2 any more. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Pablo Morales >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:52 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> Hi Sieghard. >> Well, I have been using Bluetooth keyboard since my first iphone 4, years >> ago. The problem is that if I am using the Bluetooth keyboard, some times >> the keyboard stop responding. I turn it off, but the virtual keyboard >> doesn't appear, so I turn on the BT, and is no way to make it to type, or >> to make the iPhone respond. So I have to close what ever I was doing, and >> try again. Other times, if my iPhone gets the lock screen, and I try to >> deactivate the lock screen using my BT, it just doesn't respond, but it >> doesn't happen always, it happen some times. >> Other times, if I am trying to type the info in several text boxes, with the >> bt is no way to jump and type several text boxes. I type in the first a few >> boxes, but later the bt keyboard stop working. >> It is very bad, because my bt was working perfectly in IOs7.1.2. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:58 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> Hi Pablo, >> >> I don't use a bluetooth keyboard a lot, but I think most of the problems >> were fixed. Anyhow, it's not like you didn't know what you were getting >> into, especially the issue with bluetooth keyboards and braille devices has >> been discussed exhaustively. It might help if you more specifically explain >> what exactly your problems are. I do assume you know that you have to turn >> quick nav off in order to enter text? >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Pablo Morales >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:10 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> Hi Sieghard >> Yes, I guess that apple did so. I am getting a lot of problems with the >> Bluetooth keyboard, and I need to use the Bluetooth keyboard, a lot! >> I am noticing a little bit slow my phone, I am not talking about how voice >> over works, I am talking about how my iPhone respond to the events. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:14 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> The 2-finger double tap works I would say 90% or so of the time. Every now >> and then it will start playing whatever audio I was last listening to, >> usually Audible, instead of answering the call. In that case I just 2-finger >> double tap again to stop the audio and then double tap the accept button to >> answer the call. Like I said, it happens rarely, but it still does happen >> from time to time. >> >> Pablo, I hope Apple put a few extra bugs into your copy of iOS 8.1.1 just >> because we all love to hear you complain *smile*. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Neal Ewers >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:04 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> I can double tap to answer all calls. >> >> Neal >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Pablo Morales >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:51 PM >> To: viphone >> Subject: starting with IOs 8.1.1 >> >> Hi all. >> Well, I love to make troubles, and because of that, I tried IOs 8.1.1, to >> see what I can say about this release. >> Well guys, I thought that it will be so bad, but, no. 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