Good ideas, but they say nothing about what you think of the app.
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From: "Richard Turner" <rich...@turner42.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking
KNFB reader?
Another option for menus if you know ahead of time where you are going is
checking to see if the menu is online before you go to the restaurant.
You can spend some unpressured time reading through it and at least narrow
down your choices before you get there.
Obviously, not all online menus are accessible or even there, but that is
becoming more and more common.
Some of my favorite restaurants even post their specials for dinner by about
2PM, so I can even check to see what those are and don't have to ask when I
get there.
Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking
KNFB reader?
I think we're falling into that area where people are assuming what
works for them works for everyone else or that all situations are the
same. I'll probably fall into the same trap myself, but if I'm at a
restaurant with my family, and my wife is there, then I'll go through
the menu with her. If it's just my boys then I'd scan the menu myself.
My boys are good boys, and they wouldn't mind reading the menu to their
old man, but I can tell when they do they'd rather be talking about
sports or video games while I'm looking over the menu myself. I also go
to plenty of restaurants with friends, who although their spoken English
is good, they have trouble reading the menu in say an Italian
restaurant. Sure there are times when I'd have someone read or discuss
the menu with me but there are other times when I could use the KNFB
Reader to be more independent, and I wouldn't be doing it just to show off.
Similarly for an elevator. If someone asks what floor do you want to go
to, I'll just tell them. I won't use the braille buttons just because
they're there. If no one speaks up though, or I'm on the elevator
myself, then I'm sure glad they're there.
On 12/06/2014 09:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Eden,
Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use
KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what
they want and then wait to see if you get a good result?
I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an
elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I
don’t have to push the correct button just because it has braille if
others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can
just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a
restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to
use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it,
but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes
a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that anybody thinks I am not
independent just because they are reading this information for me.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Eden Kizer
*Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people
liking KNFB reader?
We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I
can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly
to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they
think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants
don't have the correct menu listed.
I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my
independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu
with them.
eden
On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended
purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make
a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or
to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind
blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You
are, in actuality, being more independent.
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*From:* Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea
of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a
Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my
time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone
apps like All Access Menus.
Andy
*From:* SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or
mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it
really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I
am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus,
which can vary widely in format and quality.
Thanks!
Eric
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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short
paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an
iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and
accurate it is.
Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" <paul.ferr...@twc.com
<mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com>> wrote:
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes
gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d
like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in
what situations, and what things have worked well and what
things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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