To see a list of all your spool files in an RDRLIST-like fashion, get my 
LISTSG package from VM's download library and enter URLIST RDR ; URLIST 
PUN and URLIST PRT. 

You can also issue CP Q PRT/PUN/RDR TBL and see the size of each file. The 
space pre-allocated for the open CP dumps files will not be found that 
way.  Q DUMP tells you how big that is.

To find out how space is used by Saved segments, issue Q NSS.  There may 
be some other "System" files in the spool, like traces: issue Q SDF to 
find out.

At the other hand, there were a few fixes for CP's dump handling: CP 
dynamically keeps track of how much space is required for a dump and 
changes its pre-allocation.  The bug was that CP sometimes forgot to 
decrease the pre-allocation when the requirement is less.  The problems I 
encountered date  from z/VM 4.2:   VM63241 and VM6297.1 I didn't 
apply/need similar fixes to z/VM 4.4.  You can issue a Q DUMP at some 
intervals and see how the number behaves: if it always grows there might 
be some other bug.

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support




Randy Dray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Thanks for the info.

I am trying to locate the file that is causing my
spool usage to be 83%????

q alloc spool
q alloc spool
EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26769  31680  83%
------ ------        ----
SUMMARY                    32040  26769         83%
USABLE                     32040  26769         83%


I thought maybe it was OPERATNS userid, but as you
just stated, Most likely not the culprit.

Any suggestions on how to track down the file that is
filling up my Spool file.


We had a power outage 3 weeks ago,  before this outage
my spool was at 28%.  Now its 83%.

pretty sure that they are tied together but cant find
it.


I did a Transfer * rdr all to maint rdr

then did a rdrlist, purged everything,  Useage still
83 %.

?????

Thanks,

--- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Randy,
>
> You would close them with SET DUMP OFF. When you
> close them they will go
> away, they contain no records at present.
>
> These are the spool files preallocated to hold a VM
> dump, should VM ever
> crash. OPERATNS is the userid from which you would
> read in the dumps.
>
> You can run your VM system with DUMP OFF, but if
> there is ever a system
> abend, you will not have the dump for analyzing the
> problem that caused
> the abend.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Randy Dray
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help
>
> Today I did a Q RDR ALL
>
> oWNERID  FILE CLASS REC CPY HOLD DATE  TIME     NAME
>
> oPERATNS 0001 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN-
> oPERATNS 0002 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- SYS
> CPDUMP
>  MAINT 0002 T CON 00000008 001 NONE 11/05 10:39:25
>
>
>
> I have 2 fies Class d SYS for OPERATNS???
>
> how Do I close these files???
>
> Should I transfer them to maint and discard them??
>
> Still trying to reduce spool file used.
>
> q alloc spool
>             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
> VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
> ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
> 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26769  31680  83%
>                           ------ ------        ----
> SUMMARY                    32040  26769         83%
> USABLE                     32040  26769         83%
>
> Thanks
>
> Randy Dray
> Systems Programmer
> Morton Buildings Inc.
>
> Morton IL
>
> (309) 263-6397
>
>
>
>
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Randy Dray
Systems Programmer
Morton Buildings Inc.

Morton IL

(309) 263-6397

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