At 11:52 AM 2/14/00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Dan Sugalski wrote:
>
> > At 01:26 PM 2/14/00 -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote:
> > >At 10:55 PM 2/13/00 -0800, Prymmer/Kahn wrote:
> > > >+too deep to start to hit the RMS 8 level point (for versions of VMS 
> prior
> > > >+to V7.2).  It is best to do
> > >
> > >Would this be better as
> > >
> > >+too deep to start to hit the RMS 8 level point (except on ODS-5 
> disks, first
> > >+available in VMS V7.2).  It is best to do
> >
> > Nope. The directory depth limit has nothing to do with ODS-2. To wit:
> >
> > MONSOO> create /dir [.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10]
> > MONSOO> dir [.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9]
> >
> > Directory USER01:[DSUGALSKI.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9]
> >
> > 10.DIR;1
> >
> > Yay, 7.2. (Makes perl a whole lot less nervewracking, let me tell 'ya. And
> > it made mod_perl easier to build for some reason...)
> >
> >                                       Dan
>
>OK Dan I'll bite: where did you demonstrate that the physical device
>that serves USER01: is not ODS-5?  I thought that I had seen a net.rumour
>that the new RMS is built upon a new on disk structure.

MONSOO> sh dev user01/full

Disk $70$DKA203: (MONSOO), device type DEC HSZ80, is online, mounted, file-
     oriented device, shareable, served to cluster via MSCP Server, error 
logging
     is enabled.

     Error count                    0    Operations 
completed              63880
     Owner process                 ""    Owner 
UIC                      [SYSTEM]
     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev 
Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,W
     Reference count               56    Default buffer 
size                 512
     Total blocks           355486275    Sectors per 
track                    96
     Total cylinders            38573    Tracks per 
cylinder                  96
     Host name               "MONSOO"    Host type, avail Compaq 
AlphaServer GS14
0 6/525, yes
     Alternate host name     "TORNAD"    Alt. type, avail Compaq 
AlphaServer GS14
0 6/525,  no
     Allocation class              70

     Volume label           "USER01A"    Relative volume 
number                1
     Cluster size                 341    Transaction 
count                    41
     Free blocks            159758841    Maximum files 
allowed            519716
     Extend quantity                5    Mount 
count                           4
     Mount status              System    Cache 
name    "_MONSOO$DKE100:XQPCACHE"
     Extent cache size             64    Maximum blocks in extent cache 
15975884
     File ID cache size            64    Blocks currently in extent 
cache1588037
     Quota cache size               0    Maximum buffers in FCP 
cache       4224
     Volume owner UIC           [1,1]    Vol 
Prot    S:RWCD,O:RWCD,G:RWCD,W:RWCD

   Volume Status:  ODS-2, subject to mount verification, do not unload on
       dismount, write-back caching enabled.
   Volume is also mounted on CYCLON, TORNAD, BLIZZA.
   Members of this volume set are $70$DKA203: (rvn 1), $80$DKA302: (rvn 2).

Disk $80$DKA302: (MONSOO), device type DEC HSZ80, is online, mounted, file-
     oriented device, shareable, served to cluster via MSCP Server, error 
logging
     is enabled.

     Error count                    0    Operations 
completed              73640
     Owner process                 ""    Owner 
UIC                      [SYSTEM]
     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev 
Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,W
     Reference count                1    Default buffer 
size                 512
     Total blocks           355486275    Sectors per 
track                    96
     Total cylinders            38573    Tracks per 
cylinder                  96
     Host name               "MONSOO"    Host type, avail Compaq 
AlphaServer GS14
0 6/525, yes
     Alternate host name     "TORNAD"    Alt. type, avail Compaq 
AlphaServer GS14
0 6/525,  no
     Allocation class              80

     Volume label           "USER01B"    Relative volume 
number                2
     Cluster size                 341    Transaction 
count                    17
     Free blocks            165221320    Maximum files 
allowed            519716
     Extend quantity                5    Mount 
count                           4
     Mount status              System    Cache 
name    "_MONSOO$DKE100:XQPCACHE"
     Extent cache size             64    Maximum blocks in extent cache 
16522132
     File ID cache size            64    Blocks currently in extent 
cache  21483
     Quota cache size               0    Maximum buffers in FCP 
cache       4224
     Volume owner UIC           [1,1]    Vol 
Prot    S:RWCD,O:RWCD,G:RWCD,W:RWCD

   Volume Status:  ODS-2, subject to mount verification, do not unload on
       dismount, write-back caching enabled.
   Volume is also mounted on CYCLON, TORNAD, BLIZZA.
   Members of this volume set are $70$DKA203: (rvn 1), $80$DKA302: (rvn 2).

So that'd be a big nope. :) (And yes, the cluster size *is* insane. We have 
Big Honkin' Disks around here, and USER01's not been reformatted ODS-5 yet)

>BTW how goes mod_perl?

Good question. I've actually got a perl tree and mod_perl shareable image 
that built OK against the apache 1.3.9 beta kit that Compaq's distributing. 
I don't know if it actually *works*, as I've not had a chance to properly 
install and fire off the webserver, but...

If anyone wants to give it a shot, the perl kit you need is at 
ftp://ftp.sidhe.org/apache_perl.zip, and the mod_perl image is at 
ftp://ftp.sidhe.org/mod_perl.zip. I have no idea if it works properly--for 
all I know it might exhibit the classic undefined behaviour and make demons 
shoot out your nose, so you've been warned. :) (All I've done is RUN it to 
verify that yes, it is actually an executable, but that's it)

                                        Dan

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