this is all so annoying b/c we do so little international, On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:57 PM Jared Geiger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another annoyance to watch out for is all codes from various carriers > won't match up. For example UK Landlines. Some carriers will say country > code 44 is landlines and give you a rate, then break out 447XXX for the > mobiles. Others will give a rate for 441 and 442. Then some will give a > rate for 442, 4420, 44203, 44207 or some combination of those which they > should all end up being compressed to 442. So your LCR has to do the > longest prefix match per carrier and then compare against carriers. Not > necessarily shortest prefix match. For example: > > Number dialed: 44-20-7499-9000 > Carrier A: 44 - 0.0025 > Carrier B: 442 - 0.0045 > Carrier C: 44207 - 0.0085 > > The obvious LCR is carrier A, but the last time I tested A2Billing, it > would say Carrier C is the winner because the rest of the carriers don't > have a rate for 44207. The other LCR option at the time would do shortest > prefix match which could cause issues with mobile calls being incorrectly > routed and rated. Things may have changed as my experience with A2Billing > was many years ago, but it should apply to LCR calculations in general. > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:24 AM Shripal Daphtary <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Paul and Dovid -- >> >> I guess the question is what if i get a completion for the most expensive >> carrier as opposed to the cheapest, and it turns out i'm underwater? The >> issue is the variance btw carrier1 (cheapest) and carrier6 (most expensive) >> could be 40 cents at times or more. >> >> I'll take a look at GCS and R&R as well >> >> We have an implementation of a2 billing to route international, but use >> it mostly to limit fraud exposure. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Stamoulis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Int’l rating and routing is not for the feint of heart or the hurried – >>> 215k of unique rating/routing options or “breakouts” as known in the >>> industry, is not too bad. >>> >>> >>> >>> You can use MS excel if you have the time to continually update and are >>> familiar with excel macros but remember that rate updates come at least >>> 5once or twice a week with most vendors so times that by the number of >>> vendors and be ready to update-update-update or else you can lose money. >>> >>> >>> >>> You may be better off either purchasing specialized SW or using one of >>> the many cloud based companies to manage your rates for you; GCS is one >>> such company in the USA and R&R is another – I have no relations with >>> either company but I hear that they are both decent. >>> >>> >>> >>> You should try to use all 6 carriers because, you are going to find that >>> when one of the cheaper vendors does NOT work to one of the breakouts, then >>> usually the other cheap vendors do NOT either. That’s when you need to be 6 >>> or more routes deep or risk upsetting clients. >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as the mark-up on rates, don’t sweat that too much round up and >>> have a larger markup for the cheaper rates. For retial certainly , you >>> should have more than enough room and for wholesale int’l sales, well >>> that’s a whole other subject that gets much more complex… good luck, >>> >>> >>> >>> *Paul Stamoulis +1 212 444 3003 Onestopcorp – thousands of >>> technology solutions... just one call!* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Please connect at https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/ >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/>* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* VoiceOps <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Shripal >>> Daphtary >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:10 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [VoiceOps] Creating an International Rate Deck >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey group, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a question that I have been struggling with for years and have >>> never come up with a good solution for. It revolves around International >>> Rate Deck creation, but i guess it could be for any tariff. We have >>> multiple carriers for International, however, i'm trying out Thinq right >>> now so we can use their LCR. Our other carriers aren't very successful >>> with Intl. Thinq's rate deck to me is 6 carriers for each prefix, making >>> it around 215,000 lines. The carrier(s) that have the lowest cost for each >>> prefix varies, so i can't turn off the most expensive three or something >>> like that. >>> >>> >>> >>> I was thinking of taking the least expensive 3 carriers and then >>> averaging them and creating my rate from that average and then only allow >>> Thinq to go 3 carriers deep. Does anyone have any experience with this? >>> Are there any best practices? >>> >>> >>> >>> The second part of the question is how does one calculate the profit >>> margin? Let's say you wanted to make 35% for retail and 20% for wholesale, >>> but if you call UK landline, the cost is only 0.004. Your rate would be >>> 0.0054 for retail and 0.0048, which is nothing. We have been doing >>> something like If your cost is less than 0.03, then increase by 35% or 20% >>> or whatever. however, that doesn't always work if the cost is super close >>> to your target. >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have any hard and fast rules that they use when creating >>> decks? is there software that can help my puny brain think through this? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Shri >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> VoiceOps mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >> > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >
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