If you have a "proper" billing system then yes you can. In our case we do lose money but its worth it. For instance my rate to Mongolia may go up and I may lose 2 cents a minute. If say at the same time Swiss mobile drops and we now make 1 cent more per minute with 100k minutes per month we have no issue losing $20.00 to gain $1000.00 per month.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:00 AM Paul Stamoulis <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you have a way to NOT route calls that are losing money? That would > solve the “underwater rate” problem…. Otherwise, you really can not do > wholesale at all… > > > > *Paul Stamoulis +1 212 444 3003 Onestopcorp – thousands of > technology solutions... just one call!* > > > > *Please connect at **https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/* > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/> > > > > > > *From:* Shripal Daphtary <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 1:24 PM > *To:* Paul Stamoulis <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] Creating an International Rate Deck > > > > Thanks Paul and Dovid -- > > > > I guess the question is what if i get a completion for the most expensive > carrier as opposed to the cheapest, and it turns out i'm underwater? The > issue is the variance btw carrier1 (cheapest) and carrier6 (most expensive) > could be 40 cents at times or more. > > > > I'll take a look at GCS and R&R as well > > > > We have an implementation of a2 billing to route international, but use it > mostly to limit fraud exposure. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Stamoulis <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Int’l rating and routing is not for the feint of heart or the hurried – > 215k of unique rating/routing options or “breakouts” as known in the > industry, is not too bad. > > > > You can use MS excel if you have the time to continually update and are > familiar with excel macros but remember that rate updates come at least > 5once or twice a week with most vendors so times that by the number of > vendors and be ready to update-update-update or else you can lose money. > > > > You may be better off either purchasing specialized SW or using one of the > many cloud based companies to manage your rates for you; GCS is one such > company in the USA and R&R is another – I have no relations with either > company but I hear that they are both decent. > > > > You should try to use all 6 carriers because, you are going to find that > when one of the cheaper vendors does NOT work to one of the breakouts, then > usually the other cheap vendors do NOT either. That’s when you need to be 6 > or more routes deep or risk upsetting clients. > > > > As far as the mark-up on rates, don’t sweat that too much round up and > have a larger markup for the cheaper rates. For retial certainly , you > should have more than enough room and for wholesale int’l sales, well > that’s a whole other subject that gets much more complex… good luck, > > > > *Paul Stamoulis +1 212 444 3003 Onestopcorp – thousands of > technology solutions... just one call!* > > > > *Please connect at **https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/* > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/> > > > > > > *From:* VoiceOps <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Shripal > Daphtary > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:10 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [VoiceOps] Creating an International Rate Deck > > > > Hey group, > > > > I have a question that I have been struggling with for years and have > never come up with a good solution for. It revolves around International > Rate Deck creation, but i guess it could be for any tariff. We have > multiple carriers for International, however, i'm trying out Thinq right > now so we can use their LCR. Our other carriers aren't very successful > with Intl. Thinq's rate deck to me is 6 carriers for each prefix, making > it around 215,000 lines. The carrier(s) that have the lowest cost for each > prefix varies, so i can't turn off the most expensive three or something > like that. > > > > I was thinking of taking the least expensive 3 carriers and then averaging > them and creating my rate from that average and then only allow Thinq to go > 3 carriers deep. Does anyone have any experience with this? Are there any > best practices? > > > > The second part of the question is how does one calculate the profit > margin? Let's say you wanted to make 35% for retail and 20% for wholesale, > but if you call UK landline, the cost is only 0.004. Your rate would be > 0.0054 for retail and 0.0048, which is nothing. We have been doing > something like If your cost is less than 0.03, then increase by 35% or 20% > or whatever. however, that doesn't always work if the cost is super close > to your target. > > > > Does anyone have any hard and fast rules that they use when creating > decks? is there software that can help my puny brain think through this? > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > Shri > > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >
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