So, use a hassle-free solution and let someone else set it up for you. Not that we would know anything about that. :-)
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 02:29:15PM -0400, Shripal Daphtary wrote: > this is all so annoying b/c we do so little international, > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:57 PM Jared Geiger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Another annoyance to watch out for is all codes from various carriers > > won't match up. For example UK Landlines. Some carriers will say country > > code 44 is landlines and give you a rate, then break out 447XXX for the > > mobiles. Others will give a rate for 441 and 442. Then some will give a > > rate for 442, 4420, 44203, 44207 or some combination of those which they > > should all end up being compressed to 442. So your LCR has to do the > > longest prefix match per carrier and then compare against carriers. Not > > necessarily shortest prefix match. For example: > > > > Number dialed: 44-20-7499-9000 > > Carrier A: 44 - 0.0025 > > Carrier B: 442 - 0.0045 > > Carrier C: 44207 - 0.0085 > > > > The obvious LCR is carrier A, but the last time I tested A2Billing, it > > would say Carrier C is the winner because the rest of the carriers don't > > have a rate for 44207. The other LCR option at the time would do shortest > > prefix match which could cause issues with mobile calls being incorrectly > > routed and rated. Things may have changed as my experience with A2Billing > > was many years ago, but it should apply to LCR calculations in general. > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:24 AM Shripal Daphtary <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Thanks Paul and Dovid -- > >> > >> I guess the question is what if i get a completion for the most expensive > >> carrier as opposed to the cheapest, and it turns out i'm underwater? The > >> issue is the variance btw carrier1 (cheapest) and carrier6 (most expensive) > >> could be 40 cents at times or more. > >> > >> I'll take a look at GCS and R&R as well > >> > >> We have an implementation of a2 billing to route international, but use > >> it mostly to limit fraud exposure. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:36 AM Paul Stamoulis <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Int’l rating and routing is not for the feint of heart or the hurried – > >>> 215k of unique rating/routing options or “breakouts” as known in the > >>> industry, is not too bad. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> You can use MS excel if you have the time to continually update and are > >>> familiar with excel macros but remember that rate updates come at least > >>> 5once or twice a week with most vendors so times that by the number of > >>> vendors and be ready to update-update-update or else you can lose money. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> You may be better off either purchasing specialized SW or using one of > >>> the many cloud based companies to manage your rates for you; GCS is one > >>> such company in the USA and R&R is another – I have no relations with > >>> either company but I hear that they are both decent. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> You should try to use all 6 carriers because, you are going to find that > >>> when one of the cheaper vendors does NOT work to one of the breakouts, > >>> then > >>> usually the other cheap vendors do NOT either. That’s when you need to be > >>> 6 > >>> or more routes deep or risk upsetting clients. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As far as the mark-up on rates, don’t sweat that too much round up and > >>> have a larger markup for the cheaper rates. For retial certainly , you > >>> should have more than enough room and for wholesale int’l sales, well > >>> that’s a whole other subject that gets much more complex… good luck, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Paul Stamoulis +1 212 444 3003 Onestopcorp – thousands of > >>> technology solutions... just one call!* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Please connect at https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/ > >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stamoulis-56504531/>* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:* VoiceOps <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Shripal > >>> Daphtary > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:10 AM > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> *Subject:* [VoiceOps] Creating an International Rate Deck > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hey group, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have a question that I have been struggling with for years and have > >>> never come up with a good solution for. It revolves around International > >>> Rate Deck creation, but i guess it could be for any tariff. We have > >>> multiple carriers for International, however, i'm trying out Thinq right > >>> now so we can use their LCR. Our other carriers aren't very successful > >>> with Intl. Thinq's rate deck to me is 6 carriers for each prefix, making > >>> it around 215,000 lines. The carrier(s) that have the lowest cost for each > >>> prefix varies, so i can't turn off the most expensive three or something > >>> like that. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I was thinking of taking the least expensive 3 carriers and then > >>> averaging them and creating my rate from that average and then only allow > >>> Thinq to go 3 carriers deep. Does anyone have any experience with this? > >>> Are there any best practices? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The second part of the question is how does one calculate the profit > >>> margin? Let's say you wanted to make 35% for retail and 20% for > >>> wholesale, > >>> but if you call UK landline, the cost is only 0.004. Your rate would be > >>> 0.0054 for retail and 0.0048, which is nothing. We have been doing > >>> something like If your cost is less than 0.03, then increase by 35% or 20% > >>> or whatever. however, that doesn't always work if the cost is super close > >>> to your target. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anyone have any hard and fast rules that they use when creating > >>> decks? is there software that can help my puny brain think through this? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks ! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Shri > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> VoiceOps mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > VoiceOps mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > > > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC Tel: +1-706-510-6800 / +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/, http://www.csrpswitch.com/ _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
