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Just a suggestion.  -john
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Correa

Jeff wrote, my comments in blue. Mike Carrell
I don't know anything about electrochemistry in batteries, but I question the ability of a string cells to absorb a fast high energy pulse without impedance, and that this impedence would cause a voltage spike.  Maybe the spike has a different contour than a cap has and that makes the difference.  I don't know.
 
Batteries take charge by chemical action, which can't happed as fast as the PAGD pulse; Jeff is right. This is why the Correa circuit has a large electrolytic capacitor across the batteries, to take the peak energy and buffer it so the battery chemistry can act.
 
What I do know is that if you run the tube with only a ballast resistor, the PAGD events are merely a random display of little sparkles on the surface of the cathode, and that a series connected diode cap combination across the the tube to capture a forward pulse will collect nothing.  But, if you put a 3 mfd cap across the tube, the sparkles turn into energetic eruptions on the cathode surface causing the capture cap to charge up to 800v in successive pulses.  (I accidently pushed a series combination of 350v electrolytic capture caps to 800v and got away with it)
 
The faint blue glow is one of the precursors to the PAGD discharge. When you put a 3 mfd capacitor across the cell you have made an ordinary strobe flasher and the energy comes from charging the capacitor.
 
My tube is a pair of 3/4 inch aluminum plates separated be a 12 inch dia by 3 in pyrex tube sealed with a 12 inch dia by 3/16 O ring and vac grease. One plate is drilled for a vac connection.  I also have a 9 inch dia version using an acrylic tube.  It works just as well.  Works is a relative term.  Lots of neat visual effects: no obvious OU.
 
The Correa patents are quite specific about the aluminum alloys used, and quite specific about the need for a low work function, which will also depend on the condition of the surfaces with respect to contamination. If you don't "get" this, you are missing essential matters.
 
As you pull a vacuum while the tube is energized, you reach a vacuum threshold where the tube lights off.  Maximum activity is not terribly far below this threshold.  If you pull a much harder vacuum then the reactions get lethargic.  The geometry of my tubes allows me to see a haze line in the lavender glow of the tube.  This line may not be visible in a Correa style tube.  Best performance of my equipment is at a haze line height of 5/8 to 3/4 inch above the cathode plate.  At light off the haze line is at 1/8 to1/4 inch above the cathode. 
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: Correa

                  Now we're getting somewhere!
 
                  Perhaps a huge part of this mystery concerns the critical design of the output.  Too small a capacitor and the pulse action will be inhibited
                  because the capacitor will be filled.  Too fast or brief a pulse and the battery may reject most of it as heat rather than accept it as a charge.
 
                  It might be possible to use some sort of audio transformer of high quality to transform the pulses down.  I would think the low impedance
                  of  a small battery pack would be reflected back into the tube favorably.  Perhaps one of the new low voltage ultracaps would work
                 in such a circuit.
 
                

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