Did Piantelli explain how his negative hydrogen ion(protide) theory does
not violate the conservation of angular momentum. since two electrons are
in orbit around a proton. What happens to that angular momentum when the
Protide enters the nucleus?

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I really don't want this topic to drag on - it is making a mountain out of
> an ant hill.  Strictly speaking Piantelli is correct.  There are hydrogen
> ions and anions adsorbed onto a properly prepared surface of Ni (read his
> patent application, now published).  It is a small, probably negligible
> energy, but one that in exotic applications you should not ignore without
> evaluating its magnitude.  This may be particularly true if you are
> calculating the energy of a small cluster of atoms as mentioned in his
> patent applications.
>
> Jed is right - it is really really small.  Piantelli is correct that it is
> an accountable energy storage.  Let's just end it there and move on with
> more interesting topics.
>
> Why not start a new thread to discuss the role of the H- ion, which in
> Piantelli's patent, is implicated in his theory of why it works.  Please
> re-name the thread for that discussion.
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Bob Higgins and Axil--
>>
>> In nano Ni systems we have discussed many ideas about the nature of H(D)
>> in such systems.  This has included the  potential existence of Cooper
>> pairs of H, BEC's of these pairs, ionized hydrogen plasmas, H monatomic
>> gas, H diatomic gas, and various forms of molecular and crystalline H in
>> combination with other elements.  The system's parameters, such as
>> temperature, pressure, H and B magnetic fields, magnetic moments, sonic
>> vibrations, EM resonant fields, allowable spin energy transitions, etc.,
>> all may influence the population of ionic H and its lifetime in the nano
>> system.
>>
>> If the lifetimes of the ionic H or its production from other forms of H
>> is somehow influenced by these system parameters such that time constants
>> for transitions of H from state to state are NOT instantaneous, then the
>> system can be regarded as storing energy, and its release should be
>> evaluated and accounted for with time IMHO.
>>
>> Jed seems to miss this point that the production of H ions may be
>> delayed  with some effective time constant in Piantelli's Ni system.  Time
>> constants such as I have suggested make the dynamics and control of
>> the system difficult to understand, but necessary to understand, if the
>> mechanism for the LENR is to see the light of day.
>>
>> For example, in common fission reactors, energy production and energy
>> balances, including decay heat calculations, include the production of
>> protons, their kinetic energies, and the  generation of 13.6 MEV associated
>> with the radiation they give off as they collect electrons and become a
>> neutral H atom.  This is  a delayed H reaction with a time constant for the
>> macroscopic system, considered  relative to the total energy balance, and
>> used to size decay heat cooling systems. The contribution of this mechanism
>> to produce decay heat may be small compared to other sources, but it is
>> still considered.
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>>
>>

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