Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: The Piantelli system uses a heater not an arc. The systems that Piantelli > is criticizing use arcing in water (heavy or light), for example, a P&F > cell.. If the experimenter does not turn on his calorimeter until the > system is totally excited, it will look like the system is giving off > excess energy when the arc is turned off at the end of the experiment even > weeks or months after the experiment has been started. >
1. No one would ever turn on the data collection after the experiment begins. That would be insane. 2. The underwater arc experiments last only 20 minutes to an hour. They do not last for months. With the ones I have seen in person the electrode disintegrates in 20 minutes. 3. All of the input energy is accounted for. In most cases, input balances output. In a few cases, output greatly exceeds input. In no case do you ever see an energy deficit, which is what there would have to be if energy storage is occurring. So we can rule out this hypothesis for arc systems. In fact, we can rule it out for any cold fusion system, because there is never a significant endothermic reaction. As I have often pointed out, a calorimeter can measure an energy deficit as well as it can measure excess heat. Unless the system goes for very long time producing no heat, in the event of energy storage you would always see the negative endothermic face before the exothermic phase, and you would see that they balance. This is never been observed. I think that Piantelli and others should not worry about such far-fetched hypotheses that are easily disproved by the existing data. - Jed

