I admit runoff can kill reefs I admit low pH can kill reefs
I admit walking on reefs can kill reefs North Shore of Kauai has little of that Nobody ever considered radiation, which BTW has been shown to be bad for biology On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:00 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote: > No, I have concentrated on pulsed radars, which pulse at 0-1000 Hz, > considered very low frequencies. > > Dave you are generalizing and have done no research yourself. > > Here is some: > > > http://darkmattersalot.com/2015/05/19/and-you-thought-the-bp-oil-spill-was-bad/ > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:55 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > >> Of course if you limit your impact to those transmitters that >> communicate with submarines then these very low frequency signals do travel >> into the deeper water. But, so far it appears that you have placed all >> type of radars, etc. into the same category, which is not reasonable. >> >> From what I read in the news there are ocean dead zones in many locations >> that have little or nothing at all to do with RF transmissions. Many >> reefs are dying where no transmitters are located nearby to contribute to >> the problem. The concern about warming waters is a major one that is often >> used to explain the dying and that is more likely than high frequency RF >> transmissions. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 10:07 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... >> >> Thanks for the numbers. >> >> This should be relatively straight forward to test: >> >> Set up two salt water aquariums supporting comparable coral >> populations. Run them for a year or so to see they are stable. Then >> subject one of them to low frequency EM radiation. >> >> PS: What I mean contraction in terms is that "pulse" implies high >> frequency components and, indeed, is usually illustrated by time >> differential on a square wave to filter out the low frequency components. >> However, your point is well taken -- a short duration transmission of a >> high power low frequency signal will penetrate salt water -- with a very >> drastic reduction in power with depth, as your numbers show. >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:50 AM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Low frequency pulse. >>> >>> Also, we are not communicating with the marine life and coral reef, >>> the evidence is mounting that 2 terrawatts of effective isotropic radiated >>> power (EIRP) in a local area scattered by the overhead atmosphere is mildly >>> shocking the marine life through electromagnetic induction and conduction >>> through the salt water near the surface as it "grounds out" into the ocean. >>> You can't fool mother nature sort of thing. >>> >>> Here is a model of induced electrical currents in seawater surface >>> around just one ship's antennas. Now imagine 27 high power coastal based >>> radars/antennas and 45 warship radars/antennas in one area. >>> >>> >>> http://darkmattersalot.com/2015/05/14/how-cousteau-and-noaa-killed-the-reef/ >>> >>> >>> Effects of Electrical Current* on the Body [3] >>> <http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2002-123/2002-123f.html#end3> *Current* >>> *Reaction* 1 milliamp Just a faint tingle. 5 milliamps Slight shock >>> felt. Disturbing, but not painful. Most people can “let go.” However, >>> strong involuntary movements can cause injuries. 6-25 milliamps >>> (women)† >>> 9-30 milliamps (men) Painful shock. Muscular control is lost. This is >>> the range where “freezing currents” start. It may not be possible to “let >>> go.” 50-150 milliamps Extremely painful shock, respiratory arrest >>> (breathing stops), severe muscle contractions. Flexor muscles may cause >>> holding on; extensor muscles may cause intense pushing away. Death is >>> possible. 1,000-4,300 milliamps (1-4.3 amps) Ventricular fibrillation >>> (heart pumping action not rhythmic) occurs. Muscles contract; nerve damage >>> occurs. Death is likely. 10,000 milliamps (10 amps) Cardiac arrest and >>> severe burns occur. Death is probable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:43 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Low pulsed frequency is a contradiction in terms. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:01 AM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Except low pulsed frequencies >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery < jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint < >>>>>> zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but >>>>>>> some others may have an interest… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link >>>>>>> between our modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs… >>>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> Time to break out the tin-foil hats??? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No need. Salt water shields against EM penetration. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
