Sorry, Bob rather than Dave

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Dave,
>
> This may help
>
>
> http://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/TechnicalPresentation1.8.16.pdf
>
> These are the slides used in the demo
>
> Slide 53 and/or 57 are what you might need to see what you want.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> I am not sure what you say is entirely true.  The 10V source can provide
>> direct heating to a certain temperature, and can create a plasma from
>> electron impact.  A plasma is comprised of ionized gas.  However, the ions
>> don't need to be bare nuclei, and typically are not for anything but a
>> hydrogen plasma.  Normally 1 or 2 electrons are lost from the ions, in this
>> case, Ag in vapor phase.  The 10V can produce electron ionization up to
>> about 10eV energy.  This would correspond to a deep UV photon of 124nm
>> (produced during restoration of the electron), which can reach fairly deep
>> into the shells of the Ag atoms.
>>
>> However, the spectrum Mills showed contained soft x-ray, probably in the
>> 100eV range (I could not read the axis of the graph he showed).  Even this
>> probably does not represent ionization (and re-combination) of the inner
>> shells of the Ag electron orbitals.  But, achieving 100eV soft x-ray
>> ionization with 10eV needs some explanation.  Mills would say it came from
>> catalyzed shrinkage of the hydrogen orbital to a fractional quantum state.
>> The question is, could it have come from an alternative mechanism?  For
>> example, in the very strong magnetic field, could multiple 10eV electrons
>> contribute to an 100eV ionization?  What else could be responsible?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:32 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a comment regarding the source voltage and the spectrum generated
>>> by a plasma heated by that voltage.  The 10 volt supply can be used to
>>> generate heating of the plasma due to the power absorbed by the plasma.
>>> The resulting high temperature can ionize the plasma by itself and
>>> therefore the radiation energy that results from the recombination of the
>>> electron with the ion should be independent of the supply voltage.
>>>
>>> If my above thought process is accurate then a 1 volt source would be
>>> capable of initiating 10 eV radiation if it can supply enough local heat to
>>> the system and that energy of radiation is possible when the ion
>>> recombines.  Perhaps we should not be too concerned about the source
>>> voltage and instead concentrate upon the source power.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>>> Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2016 8:51 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video
>>>
>>> I wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Mills also mentioned soft x-rays early on, which are in the low
>>>> keV.  And the spectrum he spent time discussing had an endpoint somewhere
>>>> above 100 eV.  Such photons would presumably come from the excitation of
>>>> inner shell electrons in heavier elements such as silver.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I recall that the photons were mostly broadband, while emissions from
>>> de-excitation of inner shell electrons would be characteristic (sharp).  So
>>> if the broadband spectra went back to energetic beta electrons, perhaps
>>> they were due to bremsstrahlung instead.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>
>>
>

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