Bob,
I am sure you realize I am speculating about this subject.  Logic would suggest 
that the plasma can be heated to very high temperatures by current flowing 
within its mass.  It would seem to me that the application of additional power 
would result in a higher temperature regardless of the source voltage supplying 
that power.

I suppose that there exists some finite dynamic resistance through which that 
current flows which would establish a drive voltage needed in order to reach 
the required current.  Are you suggesting that a link exists between the amount 
of voltage appearing across a volume of plasma and the energy of the radiation 
that can be emitted by that plasma as it returns back to its lower energy state?

That link may be true but I am not familiar with the concept.  I think of the 
temperature as being the parameter that causes the ionization, especially for 
close in electrons.  If we can show that the temperature that the plasma 
reaches is not sufficient to cause major ionization then perhaps it becomes 
obvious that no electrons have been stripped at a deep enough level to result 
in the emission of the high energy radiation Mills claims.

There is evidence that an adequate amount of ionization is present for the 
emission of the high energy radiation.  According to Mills, the inner plasma is 
as hot as the sun's surface which as far as I know does not support elements 
which are non ionic.  If true for the sun then perhaps it is true for Mills' 
device.

Are you aware of any scientific experiments which describe the amount of 
ionization present for elements as a function of the relative temperature of 
those elements?  There must be some temperature at which each element looses 
all of its electrons to exist as a pure plasma.  At the moment I do not have a 
clue as to how hot a plasma must be in order to generate the spectrum seen by 
Mills.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Feb 5, 2016 10:25 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video



Dave,

I am not sure what you say is entirely true.  The 10V source can provide direct 
heating to a certain temperature, and can create a plasma from electron impact. 
 A plasma is comprised of ionized gas.  However, the ions don't need to be bare 
nuclei, and typically are not for anything but a hydrogen plasma.  Normally 1 
or 2 electrons are lost from the ions, in this case, Ag in vapor phase.  The 
10V can produce electron ionization up to about 10eV energy.  This would 
correspond to a deep UV photon of 124nm (produced during restoration of the 
electron), which can reach fairly deep into the shells of the Ag atoms.  

However, the spectrum Mills showed contained soft x-ray, probably in the 100eV 
range (I could not read the axis of the graph he showed).  Even this probably 
does not represent ionization (and re-combination) of the inner shells of the 
Ag electron orbitals.  But, achieving 100eV soft x-ray ionization with 10eV 
needs some explanation.  Mills would say it came from catalyzed shrinkage of 
the hydrogen orbital to a fractional quantum state.  The question is, could it 
have come from an alternative mechanism?  For example, in the very strong 
magnetic field, could multiple 10eV electrons contribute to an 100eV 
ionization?  What else could be responsible?




On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:32 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:


I have a comment regarding the source voltage and the spectrum generated by a 
plasma heated by that voltage.  The 10 volt supply can be used to generate 
heating of the plasma due to the power absorbed by the plasma.   The resulting 
high temperature can ionize the plasma by itself and therefore the radiation 
energy that results from the recombination of the electron with the ion should 
be independent of the supply voltage.

If my above thought process is accurate then a 1 volt source would be capable 
of initiating 10 eV radiation if it can supply enough local heat to the system 
and that energy of radiation is possible when the ion recombines.  Perhaps we 
should not be too concerned about the source voltage and instead concentrate 
upon the source power.

Dave

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2016 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP demo video




I wrote:



I think Mills also mentioned soft x-rays early on, which are in the low keV.  
And the spectrum he spent time discussing had an endpoint somewhere above 100 
eV.  Such photons would presumably come from the excitation of inner shell 
electrons in heavier elements such as silver.




I recall that the photons were mostly broadband, while emissions from 
de-excitation of inner shell electrons would be characteristic (sharp).  So if 
the broadband spectra went back to energetic beta electrons, perhaps they were 
due to bremsstrahlung instead.


Eric








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