Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > It doesn't matter what test is performed, the pseudo skeptics will find > some reason why it might be wrong. > > > Rubbish. You demean the intellect of the Rossi faithful with such tripe. > The reverse is as likely to be true - that no matter how inadequate the > report, Rossi's flock of gullible idealists will say it is proof-positive > of his inflated claims. > > Forget those extremes. Both are tripe. > I strongly agree! Jones Beene and I have had our disagreements, but on this we see eye-to-eye. Many intelligent people stand ready to believe a good test from an independent observer of Rossi's device. That is true even if Rossi pays for the test. Someone has to pay for it, as I pointed out yesterday. All that needs to happen as the first order of proof - and it will convince > many skeptics - is to compare electrical usage day-by-day hour-by-hour with > thermal power delivered. Note that you are not allowed to operate a heater of this size without instruments showing the performance. There are specific rules about the placement of things like a dial thermometer, a flowmeter, filters, and one-way valves to prevent false readings. These traditional analog instruments ensure an accurate reading of instantaneous power. They are not very precise. HVAC engineers have told me they are only good to within 5% or 10%. But they are highly reliable. If they were not, there would be more explosions and catastrophic failures. I do not know whether large boilers must also have electronic recording types. I do know that all large heaters have to be periodically tested. The test procedures are spelled out in detail. They involve filling in worksheets with meter readings and then looking up the answers in lookup tables. Here is a well-written guide to how this is done with a combustion boiler, with sample worksheets and lookup tables: http://www.cleaver-brooks.com/reference-center/insights/boiler-efficiency-guide.aspx (Electrically fired large boilers are less common but there are similar procedures.) Of course for test of this nature you would use recording instruments. I have seen large boilers equipped with both recording instruments and the conventional analog instantaneous instruments mandated by law. > Raw data must be available to test any summaries which are provided by the > "expert". How hard is that? > Any HVAC engineer licensed to work with a large boiler can do it. Without fail. If he failed, his license would be revoked. It would be like what happens with a Toyota mechanic makes a drastic mistake and your brakes fail, causing an accident. That seldom happens nowadays. Ask yourself this: How hard is it to compare heat delivered against the > corresponding power bill from Florida Power and Light? Rossi should have > had his own power meter installed. It does not have to be a billing meter. A conventional heavy-duty recording wattmeter would be fine. > That is step one. Step two is to verify the official data has not been > altered. That might be a tricky. Data can always be altered in a digital image. - Jed
