it is rather late but I will answer to this tomorrow.

Just - to mke a 6 years fraud when you have no trace of excess heat is a
performance!
peter

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Also Peter,
> I resent that you attack Jed and dismiss him as a defender of IH. You call
> him in a satirical way IHoptimist.
> I don't think at all that people like Jed and others like me that despise
> the way Rossi behaves as shrills of IH. IH is not a saint but it is clear
> who is the worst scammer here. And there is nothing to be optimistic about
> this. It is incredibly sad and depressing. But one has to accept reality
> even when it is depressing. Rossi is an enemy of LENR not a friend.
>
> I have a PhD in physics and I'm aware both of the promises but also the
> possible pitfalls of this field. I was in my first year of college Physics
> studies (in Bologna) when the discovery of Pons and Fleischman was
> announced. I remember exactly the moment and place when it was announced in
> radio and television. There was so much enthusiasm and excitement both at
> the public level and among professors and students. I remember having long
> discussions with a professor that thought he understood how it all worked.
> And I remember even more clearly the disappointment and broken heart for
> what followed within a year.
>
> I stared to follow Rossi and ecats news several years ago because I
> thought it was an amazing story of redemption both for LENR and himself as
> a person.
> I wished the best and for the field and Rossi because if LENR proves true
> it would indeed the world for the better.
>
> But then more I understood what was beyond Rossi's claims and actions more
> I realized that he has absolutely nothing and it is obvious he is pulling
> another fraud.
>
> "Il lupo perde il pelo ma non il vizio" is a famous Italian saying ("The
> wolf can lose his fur but never his vice"), meaning "old habits die hard".
>
> Giovanni
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
> gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A part of the energy. And that needs to be demonstrated by Rossi. It is
>> not trivial. And Rossi didn't say that is the case, he said it was used in
>> chemical reactions. That makes no sense.
>>
>> Giovanni
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But I have explained about the heat exchangers. Energy consumed and sent
>>> underground. Do you exclude this simple possibility for apart of energy?
>>> peter
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>>> gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also Peter can you explain the difference between use and consumed?
>>>> What that means?
>>>> Unless there was a black hole inside the building of the "customer"
>>>> doesn't matter what you do with the energy eventually the energy needs to
>>>> be somehow radiated or removed from the building to the outside environment
>>>> in a way or another. It cannot be "consumed".
>>>> It can maybe stored if this is what you mean but what kind of process
>>>> can store all that energy in this efficient manner? If the "customer"
>>>> invented such a storing process it would be even more valuable than a
>>>> working ecat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>>>> gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>> It is not a straight answer at all.
>>>>> Where is Rossi evidence that there was a real chemical plant having
>>>>> any use of the energy at all?
>>>>> Yours are just incredible speculations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Giovanni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> when things go too far, they must be stopped, situation calmed down
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-14-2016-lenr.html
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>> Cluj, Romania
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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