"Just - to mke a 6 years fraud when you have no trace of excess heat is a
performance!"  Peter..

Yes, it is "masterpiece" using one of Rossi's favorite expression. A
masterpiece of fraud.

But not at all impossible if you are a fraudster and you have a lot of
believers. That is the problem with belief. Think religion, alternative
medicine, quackery of all kind. Religion has lasted thousands of years and
what does it have to show?

A lot of believers in all these areas of human activity.
This why belief doesn't belong to science.



On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:

> it is rather late but I will answer to this tomorrow.
>
> Just - to mke a 6 years fraud when you have no trace of excess heat is a
> performance!
> peter
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Also Peter,
>> I resent that you attack Jed and dismiss him as a defender of IH. You
>> call him in a satirical way IHoptimist.
>> I don't think at all that people like Jed and others like me that despise
>> the way Rossi behaves as shrills of IH. IH is not a saint but it is clear
>> who is the worst scammer here. And there is nothing to be optimistic about
>> this. It is incredibly sad and depressing. But one has to accept reality
>> even when it is depressing. Rossi is an enemy of LENR not a friend.
>>
>> I have a PhD in physics and I'm aware both of the promises but also the
>> possible pitfalls of this field. I was in my first year of college Physics
>> studies (in Bologna) when the discovery of Pons and Fleischman was
>> announced. I remember exactly the moment and place when it was announced in
>> radio and television. There was so much enthusiasm and excitement both at
>> the public level and among professors and students. I remember having long
>> discussions with a professor that thought he understood how it all worked.
>> And I remember even more clearly the disappointment and broken heart for
>> what followed within a year.
>>
>> I stared to follow Rossi and ecats news several years ago because I
>> thought it was an amazing story of redemption both for LENR and himself as
>> a person.
>> I wished the best and for the field and Rossi because if LENR proves true
>> it would indeed the world for the better.
>>
>> But then more I understood what was beyond Rossi's claims and actions
>> more I realized that he has absolutely nothing and it is obvious he is
>> pulling another fraud.
>>
>> "Il lupo perde il pelo ma non il vizio" is a famous Italian saying ("The
>> wolf can lose his fur but never his vice"), meaning "old habits die hard".
>>
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A part of the energy. And that needs to be demonstrated by Rossi. It is
>>> not trivial. And Rossi didn't say that is the case, he said it was used in
>>> chemical reactions. That makes no sense.
>>>
>>> Giovanni
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But I have explained about the heat exchangers. Energy consumed and
>>>> sent underground. Do you exclude this simple possibility for apart of
>>>> energy?
>>>> peter
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also Peter can you explain the difference between use and consumed?
>>>>> What that means?
>>>>> Unless there was a black hole inside the building of the "customer"
>>>>> doesn't matter what you do with the energy eventually the energy needs to
>>>>> be somehow radiated or removed from the building to the outside 
>>>>> environment
>>>>> in a way or another. It cannot be "consumed".
>>>>> It can maybe stored if this is what you mean but what kind of process
>>>>> can store all that energy in this efficient manner? If the "customer"
>>>>> invented such a storing process it would be even more valuable than a
>>>>> working ecat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>> It is not a straight answer at all.
>>>>>> Where is Rossi evidence that there was a real chemical plant having
>>>>>> any use of the energy at all?
>>>>>> Yours are just incredible speculations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giovanni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when things go too far, they must be stopped, situation calmed down
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-14-2016-lenr.html
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>>>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>

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