Holmlid uses bubble detectors to check for neutrons and no bubbles have
ever been seen.

The production of quack soup through heavy element ion collisions that they
do at CERN have to produce some neutrons.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not so fast! It's hardly so simple as just putting an unknown physics
> experiment next to a valuable detector. No one would be foolish enough to
> risk the trying to catch the unknown in such a rare net of the known
> without some preliminary tests. I once was lent a very sophisticated
> detector to study my mischugenon producing technology which is very very
> similar to Holmlid's tech. But minutes before testing I had second
> thoughts. Instead of forging ahead I spent some hours talking over the test
> and possibilities once again with the builders of the instrument who had
> been so gracious as to loan it to me. We collectively decided that if
> indeed what my data had shown in previous instruments were repeated it was
> very likely it would cause instantaneous irreparable damage to the
> instrument as clearly the 'mischugenon's' behaved somewhat like neutrons
> which if even a trace were present might produce neutron activation. Even
> the slightest creation of activated species would give a signal for the
> history books but forever ruin the detector. Alas my budget was many orders
> of magnitude away from being able to pay for such damage. Even though I was
> one flip of a switch away I never threw that switch. Ces't la vie.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.
>
> Here is an image of ATLAS.
>
> http://www.atlasexperiment.org/photos/atlas_photos/
> selected-photos/full-detector/0511013_02-A4-at-144-dpi.jpg
>
> The guy standing in the bottom/center gives an idea of the Scale.
>
> Heck LH doesn't need a miniature version - that is an unnecessary delay:
> the version that is known to work should be shipped trucked down there at
> once...
>
>
> Axil Axil wrote:
> > Holmlid et al are planning to put a miniaturized version of their
> > experiment inside a full scale particle detector. My guess is that
> > that detector will be ATLAS since Holmlid is in contact with the
> > particle physics at CERN.
>
>
>

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