As of now, this is looking worse than an objective observer would have predicted from the circumstances. I agree with Jed that just by letting these people in the door, me356 has enhanced his credibility... possibly less than being an early Porsche owner but at least he is open to scrutiny. Yet he is not the first self-deluded inventor to seek 15 minutes of fame without good advice and proper preparation.

Like it or not, this story is mostly about Rossi - another chapter in that disgusting legacy of failure - the man is poison. Even a dilettante should be able to show unity or modest gain by going back to the Thermacore technique. The new guy has few credentials, no valid theory, no known expertise or even prior experience in LENR and no objective prior indication of success, but yet he gathers the rapt attention of the field (hoping to revive Rossi and the level of false hope which has been instilled).

Like most on Vortex, I want his result to be great, regardless of his motivations since I believe LENR is real. Others like Thermacore demonstrated Ni-H gain at low COP -- but the poor showing today is unlikely to improve above the level of disappointment, not clearly gainful, and more like the dozen or so failed Parkhomov replication attempts so far (close to unity). Hopefully me356 can get it up to slightly above unity before they leave.

Rossi supporters, as expected, were fervently praying for quick and easy gain at high COP since that would serve to vindicate their tarnished hero and show they are not as gullible as they continue to appear. Instead this fiasco looks like another nail in the Rossi coffin.

Please, please - me365, do something tomorrow to make this negative assessment wrong. Show us COP of 6... or 3... or even 1.5 !

Many here would be very happy with COP of 1.5 if verified by Alan Goldwater.

Bob Higgins wrote:
I was only working from data I extracted from the plots. It may prove to be a little better when the raw data itself is analyzed.

The first 10 minutes would not necessarily be better because the heater was being driven with more power. It may measure more accurately because the water was closer to room temp.

The steam was very effectively sparged - no bubbles were coming out of the water. At the end, the copper cooling coil was raised from the water and steam came out from the holes in the tubing.



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